[Product]  BB-104 Basalt Horogium 145WD

(Feb. 08, 2011  12:34 AM)ShadowPegasis Wrote:
(Feb. 05, 2011  12:17 PM)Azlanslayer Wrote: Yup. In my country Singapore, Basalt Horogium is out at the local shops. Its Sonokong though, costs around $25 USD.

So this means the eBay ones aren't really pre-orders, but rather the actual Horogiums?

Yep, the SK Beafowl I ordered was sent this past saturday (the other SK maximum serie blades had the same release date).
If it's a pre-order, the sellers usually mention it on the product info section.
(Feb. 05, 2011  9:52 PM)Kai-V Wrote: I am not certain if this was mentioned already in this topic, but Basalt is quite 'small', but still wider than Killer, at least ...

I just got my first Killer wheel today and Basalt is actually smaller than Killer.. unless SonoKong's Killer is wider than Takara Tomy... My Killer wheel is just about wider than my Earth wheel even.

Basalt measure Killer:
http://www.imagebam.com/image/623aa9118773973
http://www.imagebam.com/image/85c87b118774015
http://www.imagebam.com/image/f6ba8e118774067
... Could you concretely measure your Metal Wheels with a tape ?
Earth = 4.5cm
http://www.imagebam.com/image/98eb63118825211

Killer = 4.5cm
http://www.imagebam.com/image/074b5d118825455

Basalt = 4.2cm
http://www.imagebam.com/image/2dd0dc118825174
(Feb. 09, 2011  10:21 PM)funkyblader Wrote: basalt must be tiny!

Tiny but heavy = compact. To bad the weight distribution is messed up due to the "staircase" in the metal wheel.
maybe if you put the gil cw on basalt, it might make it abit more balanced
(Feb. 09, 2011  10:46 PM)funkyblader Wrote: maybe if you put the gil cw on basalt, it might make it abit more balanced
^
(Jan. 23, 2011  7:30 AM)Diamond Wrote: Gil is only slightly unbalanced while Basalt 'lost' a whole chunk of metal, so using Gil (or any other Clear Wheel) wouldn't have much effect.

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Basalt may be small,but it's defense is countering that's why it's unbalanced,and it's better to keep horogium clear wheel or bull's clear wheel and add a MF-H to it because the heavier it is, the better the counter!!!
(Feb. 09, 2011  5:39 PM)JÆMS Wrote: Earth = 4.5cm
http://www.imagebam.com/image/98eb63118825211

Killer = 4.5cm
http://www.imagebam.com/image/074b5d118825455

Basalt = 4.2cm
http://www.imagebam.com/image/2dd0dc118825174
That is a huge difference for Killer ...
http://kyoganken.web.fc2.com/beymf/p05mw.htm
(Feb. 10, 2011  2:46 AM)Kai-V Wrote:
(Feb. 09, 2011  5:39 PM)JÆMS Wrote: Earth = 4.5cm
http://www.imagebam.com/image/98eb63118825211

Killer = 4.5cm
http://www.imagebam.com/image/074b5d118825455

Basalt = 4.2cm
http://www.imagebam.com/image/2dd0dc118825174
That is a huge difference for Killer ...
http://kyoganken.web.fc2.com/beymf/p05mw.htm

Strange ... I just measured my 'Evil' and got the same as Jaems, Kyoganken must have got it wrong ...
This looks awesome. Its wheel looks pretty big that could maximize ts defense.
Sorry its metal wheel looks pretty big to maximize its defense.
Basalt Wheel = Counter Defense
MF-H Basalt Bull GB145MB/WB = Maximum Counter Defense

Key: Heavier the Defense Better, Counter Defense. After all, it can be Hell Kerbex BD145DS!!!
If it's small, then it's harder to hit, and more compact. I don't see how that's bad at all. Waiting for mine to make its merry way from korea is painful...
(Feb. 10, 2011  3:45 AM)HorogiumClock13 Wrote: Basalt Wheel = Counter Defense
MF-H Basalt Bull GB145MB/WB = Maximum Counter Defense

Both MB/WB are outclassed by RS/RSF/CS.

Anyways, has enough testing shown whether or not Basalt is an ideal defense combo? The chunk missing from it looks like it'll unbalance it easily.
No "proper" testing was done with Basalt yet actually ... Only specific, 'unorthodox' combinations were tested.
(Feb. 10, 2011  3:13 AM)Chaos Blader Wrote: Strange ... I just measured my 'Evil' and got the same as Jaems, Kyoganken must have got it wrong ...

Well mystery solved for that, it was one of those moments for people when they get numbers mixed up. He used the same measurement as the weight for the Killer metal wheel.

Quote:Weight: 31.2g Diameter: 31.2mm

So the real measurement is what i've near enough provided (excluding the mm).
(Feb. 10, 2011  6:58 AM)Hero Wrote:
(Feb. 10, 2011  3:45 AM)HorogiumClock13 Wrote: Basalt Wheel = Counter Defense
MF-H Basalt Bull GB145MB/WB = Maximum Counter Defense

Both MB/WB are outclassed by RS/RSF/CS.

Anyways, has enough testing shown whether or not Basalt is an ideal defense combo? The chunk missing from it looks like it'll unbalance it easily.

It's counter defense, which B tips are good at. MB has pretty good defense, and is the heaviest bottom available too.
MB does not have good defence. It is much more suited to stamina because defence bottoms need friction which metal bottoms have a lack of, MB being not exception to this. I really doubt the B bottoms are better than rubber ones at this tbh.
what he's saying is counter defence. which im sure means that it moves after being hit and "counters". since RS and RSF cannot move as much as MB or WB (because of friction) they don't have as much "counter defence". thats what i htink he's saying.
also do we knw when "proper testing" may be dun? cuz im getting it tonite so it wont come for a while
i have basalt horologuim,its good in counter attack and i dont notice the effect of the slope in the metal,its a very good bey.questions?pm me please
^ We already knew that. Its rather good since the recoil is high.
Pretty good for attack I think,counter attack ,if a left spin attack basalt as an attack type, then It would be knocked out due to it's counter attack ability
but it wont be able to move as fast with an attack performance tip due to its weight
it will move fast if the weight of the wheel is focused on the outside