(Dec. 15, 2015 1:37 AM)Dvlmchn Wrote: Cake I really appreciate the time taken to narrow that whole MFB series down. I like things that have weight and don't feel fake. When you refer to the 4D variety using gimmicks. Are these gimmicks practical? Or and am I going to be underwhelmed and feel like I'm being sold a bag of goods? So I guess I like things that feel professional. Am I going to get that feeling with the 4D line? Is Zero G a beeter buy? Is there anybody else who prefers the quality over quantity idea?
I like the sound of zero g but as with any mechanism the more moving parts the bigger chance of error.
This is great info. I need to know what line to buy. I bought the beywarrior set at a clothing store for 10 bucks just for the arena. I have one diablo nemesis coming in. I need another one lol.
I guess based on my preferences I need to know what series to invest my time in.
The WBO has three official tournament formats for MFB - Standard, Limited, and Zero-G.
Standard is more or less unlimited; you may use almost any official, unmodified parts from all of MFB - Metal System through Zero-G. However, over time, Metal Wheels (or whatever parts form the main disk) have become progressively heavier and more powerful - Zero-G Synchromes are over half again as heavy as earlier HWS and Metal System Wheels. As a result, only some 4D releases and Zero-G Wheels are competitively viable (though Tracks and Tips from earlier systems have not faced nearly as much power creep).
Limited seeks to counteract that weight creep by having an extensive ban list featuring most of the heavier parts available. Almost all 4D Metal Wheels are banned, Synchromes are banned, and the super-heavy disk tracks like BD145 are banned. Limited allows a lot of parts that were outclassed upon release by heavier, more powerful parts to be used competitively, and provides a fun alternate game mode to Standard's ultra-heavy combos. However, the ban list is subject to changes from time to time, so the metagame does shift around a bit.
Zero-G has minimal parts restrictions like Standard does, but it is played in the swaying Stadiums unique to the Zero-G line. The shifting playing field makes Zero-G very different from Standard or Limited, and can feel a bit more chaotic and random than the other formats with their non-wobbling Stadiums
Which format(s) you want to play will naturally affect your buying decisions if you want to be competitive; for Standard you should focus on Zero-G and some specific 4D Beyblades, for Limited, early top-tier parts like Pegasis, Earth, and Lightning are used alongside later oddballs like Bakushin and Jade, and even a few Zero-G parts. Zero-G format uses mostly parts from the Zero-G line, because those parts are intended with the Zero-G stadiums in mind.
When buying specific Beyblades to build a competitive collection, prioritize in order of which parts affect the Beyblade most - you can make do with a subpar Track or Clear Wheel, usually, but using a substitute Metal Wheel or Tip can ruin the combo. Focus your buying towards metal parts first (which make up most of the Beyblade's mass), then the tip (which affects its Attack, Defense, and Stamina strongly), then the Track (certain Tracks are fairly heavy, and can have a strong effect of performance), then any other plastic parts.
Regarding 4D's gimmicked parts, almost all the 4D Bottoms fall into the "fun, but non-competitive" category. The mode changes are entertaining, but it usually involves the tip changing from a bad tip to a slightly worse one. Only Bearing Drive is competitive, and it is arguably the least gimmicky 4D bottom - it doesn't have a mode change at all. The story with 4D Metal Wheels is marginally better - usually, at least one of the modes is good. Most 4D Metal Wheels have two modes: one that's good and everyone uses, and one that's either slightly worse or a LOT worse that nobody uses. Only Phantom, Death, and Wing actually have meaningful mode switches where more than one mode
is was viable, and at this point only Phantom's Attack mode and Death's Defense mode are still usable in Standard, while Wing is more or less forgotten completely. 4D's gimmicks have always been more entertaining than competitive, and Zero-G was really the last nail in the coffin for most 4D parts.
I would love to recommend the 4D series to you, as 4D beyblades have a lot of the qualities you are looking for (satisfying weight; artistic, unique designs; entertaining gimmicks; symmetry (something Zero-G doesn't have)), but 4D is kind of stuck in competitive limbo at the moment. It's too strong for Limited, and is banned in that format, but 4D parts are still generally too weak to compete in Standard or Zero-G, where the heavier Synchromes win out. A handful of 4D wheels are still viable (Duo, Flash, Diablo, Phantom, and Scythe), though they are generally resigned to niche combos that see little use. Unless a properly balanced 4D format springs up overnight, you have two main options for MFB: buy Zero-G parts for Standard and Zero-G, or buy early MFB parts for Limited. Standard and Zero-G feature heavy, powerful combos, while Limited offers more diverse options with lighter-weight combos. I would suggest getting involved in either Standard or Limited to start, as Zero-G is very different from anything before or since.
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Parts and combos
Parts: (Out of date again)
Metal Wheels:
Bakushin
Burn x2
Cyclone
Death
Diablo
Divine
Earth
Fury
Galaxy
Gravity x3
Hell x3
Inferno
Jade
Kries
L-Drago Destroy
Libra
Lightning
Pegasus
Phantom x2
Poison
Screw
Thermal
Vulcan
Clay (all by itself cuz it sux)
Chrome Wheels:
Bahamidia
Balro
Begirados x2
Dragooon
Genbull x2
Girago
Goriem x2
Gryph x2
Ifraid
Killerken
Phoenic
Revizer x2
Saramanda
Wyvang
Clear Wheels:
Aquario
Beelzeb x2
Cancer x2
Capricorn x2
Cetus
Crown
Cygnus
Horogium
Horuseus x2
Jupiter
Kerbecs x2
Lacerta
Leone
Orion x2
Pegasus II
Pegasus III
Pisces
Quetzalcoatl
Sagittario x2
Sagittario II
Scorpio
Virgo
Wolf
Crystal Wheels:
Bandid
Berserker x2
Dark Knight
Gladiator
Guardian
Samurai x2
Shinobi x2
Theif x2
Tracks:
85 x2
90 x2
100 x2
105
CH120
125 x2
T125 x2
D125
130 x2
WA130 x2
S130
145 x3
W145 x2
Ad145
C145
ED145
WD145
UW145
SW145
TR145
GB145
BD145
160 x2
SA165
SR200 x2
230
F230
A230
E230
SP230
Tips:
B
BS
BWD x2
CF x2
CS
D
DS
EDS
EWD
FS
GCF
GF
HF x3
JSB
MF
RB
RDF
RF x2
R2F
RS x3
RSF
S x2
SB x2
SD x2
SWD
TB x2
WB
WD x4
WSF
W2D
XF x3
4D bottoms:
Combos: (Standard)
MSF-H Genbull Genbull 85RSF
Balro Begirados 100RF
Girago Genbull E230CS
MSF-H Wyvang Ifraid GB145RF
Girago Dragooon SA165 (Attack) W2D
Combos: (Limited)
MF-H Lightning L-Drago 85RB (Aggro)
MF-H Jade Horogium 85RSF
MF-H Earth Cygnus TR145RSF
Ronin Genbull (Crystal Up) 85RF
Burn Orion 85MF
Burn Cygnus 85WD
Earth Pegasus II ED145WD
Funny (or just out of context) quotes:
(Oct. 21, 2011 1:59 AM)Hazel Wrote: I am not intelligent, simply capable of memorizing information and vomitting it back up in an eloquent fashion.
BlitzUnicornio3 Wrote:Balro Balro puts up a good fight, it just loses every time.
(Aug. 03, 2013 6:40 PM)Kai Hiwatari Wrote: Yes, but hasbro typically does unexpected things that are bad though.
(Aug. 11, 2013 8:56 AM)DrPepsidew Wrote: Red is an icky color.
(Aug. 23, 2013 9:36 PM)Akio314 Wrote: Kick'm in the shins if you see him again! Both shins 50 times! Violence is the best way to promote peace!
(Aug. 29, 2013 4:33 AM)Ultramarine Wrote: Grab your pitchforks, it's mob time!
(Aug. 29, 2013 4:33 AM)Ultramarine Wrote: I'm going to beat up an innocent XTS top now...
(Aug. 29, 2013 8:42 PM)rkalajian Wrote: So today I just got in the Octogon Battle Set from the BeyWarriors line...
It's just NOT good. The stadium is pretty cool, but I couldn't hate the BeyWarriors more. They spin horribly, and the battles are like to people spinning around while slapping each other with fish. It just doesn't feel as exciting, and has a WAY less powerful feel that regular Beys.
Bleh...
Ultramarine Wrote:Revizer offers as much smash as I do free puppies. There's a reason it's top tier in defence.
(Sep. 28, 2013 10:16 PM)Ultramarine Wrote: On the way back to school after a cross country meet, my friend and I argued for the whole 1 hour 33 minute bus ride. The whole thing.
The argument? Whether this stick I had was called THE stick or A stick. Our arguments took various tangents such as algebra, luck, happiness, and English class. It was the weirdest argument I've had in awhile.
(Sep. 29, 2013 3:19 AM)Ultramarine Wrote: Just a warning, I'm a living freakshow.
(Oct. 01, 2013 10:37 PM)Dark_Mousy Wrote: (Oct. 01, 2013 8:39 PM)Stars Wrote: So Dark why did you use GCF then CF? CF had a better LAD it less likely to Self KO
I uswd cf at the event because it looked pretty on f230.
(Oct. 03, 2013 6:55 AM)OwnageDerp Wrote: Wasn't there text here before?
(Sep. 29, 2013 5:31 PM)Hazel Wrote: Octodad is always watching.
(Feb. 03, 2014 8:19 PM)Dual Wrote: a polar bear smoothie sounds great right about now
(Apr. 02, 2014 2:06 AM)Ray Sagittario Wrote: Your all nuts!
(Apr. 01, 2014 8:40 PM)TheBlackDragon Wrote: You came on the wrong day
(Jun. 20, 2014 11:57 PM)OwnageDerp Wrote: You live in the UK... I thought burglary was only in the US!
(Dec. 12, 2014 4:25 AM)BURGER KING Wrote: If you start craving raw meat and start getting very hairy, your probably being genetically mutated by that ice cream. Better hope it's not a full moon.
(Dec. 28, 2014 11:14 AM)earthwolf1404 Wrote: I was bit by a llama yesterday. I think I'll be okay, as long as I'm not near anyone on a full moon.
(Dec. 19, 2010 12:23 PM)spectrobes geo Wrote: once opon a time a 13 year old boy named masunne.
(Jan. 29, 2015 2:56 AM)Wombat Wrote: (Jan. 29, 2015 2:38 AM)AÉ´É¢Ê€Ê Fᴀᴄᴇ Wrote: @[The Supreme One] Soul Baez V145AS
That's one fine looking Bottom.
(Feb. 01, 2015 1:26 AM)Wizard Wrote: (Jan. 31, 2015 8:22 PM)Leone19 Wrote: With Beyblade going on another hiatus, it's a shame to see remaining active members bicker over small things.
I understand, we're all a little annoyed, so might I enlighten all of you with some holy text written by the wise men of the olden days.
And on the 423rd day there was a flash in the sky, and a legendary bey came down like fire from the heavens. And that bey was called Pegasis, and it meant the end of the terrible hiatus that had plagued our kind for so long. And with that bey came a new hero, and that hero was named Ginga. And with his bey in hand he paved the way into the new era of beyblade. - Takao 3:16
Brothers, just as the wise man of old wrote about a new hero, I promise you that yet another is coming!
(Mar. 21, 2015 10:20 PM)Tri Wrote: idk how to explain it honestly im dumb as mud
(Mar. 23, 2015 4:08 AM)Neo Wrote: i cant wait until bomb some dodongos day
(Jun. 01, 2015 11:52 PM)MissingNo. Wrote: (Jun. 01, 2015 10:26 PM)Bey Brad Wrote: like i'm gonna trust the dude with 11 cancer faces
he'll give you cancer
(Jul. 13, 2015 5:25 AM)Bey Brad Wrote: I can't believe there's a 40 page thread discussing usernames. You're all insane.
(Aug. 13, 2015 7:24 PM)Bey Brad Wrote: Mercury Anubis is strong and will hold you in his muscular metal arms at night
(Sep. 11, 2015 10:33 PM)Tri Wrote: "bruh whats dat gem on ur kicks"
"pegasis 145rf"
(Dec. 05, 2015 3:17 AM)Mega L-Drago 24 Wrote: Have fun and remember from space Earth lookes like a giant beystadium
(Jan. 12, 2016 5:45 AM)Bey Brad Wrote: TAKE THEM OFF
(Jun. 02, 2016 2:46 AM)Neo Wrote: My first Pokemon, my favorite, and easily the most sentimental.
AWEASOME FIRRE CHIKEN MAN ON FIREEFIRE FIGHTS THE DUDES BEATS EM STUPID MONKEY AND PIG TRYNA COPY THIS BA CHIKENN DUDE WITH WRISTS ON FIREEEEEEFIREEEEE
I'm so sorry.
(Jul. 27, 2016 1:33 AM)Hato Wrote: (Jul. 27, 2016 1:27 AM)NEET no Kami Wrote: i definitely don't remember learning about that in religious studies.
But wasn't it in Exodus 14:21?
The Bible Wrote:"Then Moses stretched out his hand over the sea; and L-DRAGO swept the sea back with a strong special move all night and turned the sea into dry land, so the waters were divided"
(Mar. 03, 2017 4:17 PM)Kai-V Wrote: Evil is very bad though... There is just nothing good to do with it.