Burst Classic Testing and Discussion

Well, Regulus R3 is now banned, so we don't have to worry about the King Hippo of Burst Classic anymore.
Do you guys think that Valtryek V2 is better than Valtryek? Also, a personal thought. Genesis Valtryek V3 has awesome slopes, if it's put on a stationary combo like gV3/S/G/H and defense/survive/orbit (another personal thought: orbit will be banned, it's too much better than the legal parts allowed in Burst Classic format), there will be no chance to burst it. V3 has the bound attack gimmick, which absorbs part of the attacks v3 gets hit by. Lad and stamina guaranteed by spread, or take yell/heavy to add defense properties and those performance tips i mentioned above. That would be a winning machine. So, let's keep an eye open on v3 and orbit. Imo, they won't last long before they get banned.
Orbit, or my Hasbro orbit at least, has an exceptionally weak spring. Very little burst defense. That may be a balancing point for keeping it around.
(Jan. 23, 2019  3:39 PM)DeceasedCrab Wrote: Orbit, or my Hasbro orbit at least, has an exceptionally weak spring. Very little burst defense. That may be a balancing point for keeping it around.

Oh, really? I thought it had a strong spring.
(Jan. 23, 2019  4:11 PM)bblader/90 Wrote:
(Jan. 23, 2019  3:39 PM)DeceasedCrab Wrote: Orbit, or my Hasbro orbit at least, has an exceptionally weak spring. Very little burst defense. That may be a balancing point for keeping it around.

Oh, really? I thought it had a strong spring.

The Takara Tomy Orbit has a good spring the Hasbro Orbit is average
(Jan. 23, 2019  3:23 PM)bblader/90 Wrote: Do you guys think that Valtryek V2 is better than Valtryek? Also, a personal thought. Genesis Valtryek V3 has awesome slopes, if it's put on a stationary combo like gV3/S/G/H and defense/survive/orbit (another personal thought: orbit will be banned, it's too much better than the legal parts allowed in Burst Classic format), there will be no chance to burst it. V3 has the bound attack gimmick, which absorbs part of the attacks v3 gets hit by. Lad and stamina guaranteed by spread, or take yell/heavy to add defense properties and those performance tips i mentioned above. That would be a winning machine. So, let's keep an eye open on v3 and orbit. Imo, they won't last long before they get banned.

Eh, I've tried V3 on O and it wasn't that good. Sure, orbit is good, but not so much better than everything else. Even if V3 doesn't burst, it will probably be OSed by a good amount of stamina and defence types. To answer your question: V2 and V are both good for different things. V is good for burst attack while V2 is good for KO attack.
These are great combos; trying them out with what we have! Thanks!
Satomb S3 Knuckle Yard-S (Battle Ring Mode) (First) vs. Spryzen S2 Gravity Zephyr (Second Sliding Shoot): Wombat
- S3.K.Yr-S: 5 Burst, 1 OS (60% Win Rate)
- S2.G.Z: 3 KO, 1 Burst (40% Win Rate)

Satomb S3 Knuckle Yard-S (Battle Ring Mode) (First) vs. Spryzen S2 Gravity Zephyr (Second): Wombat
- S3.K.Yr-S: 8 OS (80% Win Rate)
- S2.G.Z: 2 OS (20% Win Rate)

Doomscizor D3 Knuckle Yard-S (Battle Ring Mode) (First) vs. Spryzen S2 Gravity Zephyr (Second Sliding Shoot): Wombat
- D3.K.Yr-S: 2 Burst, 1 OS, 1 KO (40% Win Rate)
- S2.G.Z: 3 OS, 2 KO, 1 Burst (60% Win Rate)

Doomscizor D3 Knuckle Yard-S (Battle Ring Mode) (First) vs. Spryzen S2 Gravity Zephyr (Second): Wombat
- D3.K.Yr-S: 7 OS (70% Win Rate)
- S2.G.Z: 3 OS (30% Win Rate)

Strike Valtryek V3 Knuckle Yard-S (Battle Ring Mode) (First) vs. Spryzen S2 Gravity Zephyr (Second Sliding Shoot): Wombat
- SV3.K.Yr-S: 3 Burst, 3 OS (60% Win Rate)
- S2.G.Z: 2 OS, 1 Burst, 1 KO (40% Win Rate)

Strike Valtryek V3 Knuckle Yard-S (Battle Ring Mode) (First) vs. Spryzen S2 Gravity Zephyr (Second): Wombat
- SV3.K.Yr-S: 5 OS (50% Win Rate)
- S2.G.Z: 5 OS (50% Win Rate)

(Stamina Mode) Cognite C3 Knuckle Yard-S (Battle Ring Mode) (First) vs. Spryzen S2 Gravity Zephyr (Second Sliding Shoot): Wombat
- C3.K.Yr-S: 3 Burst (30% Win Rate)
- S2.G.Z: 4 Burst, 2 OS, 1 KO (70% Win Rate)

(Stamina Mode) Cognite C3 Knuckle Yard-S (Battle Ring Mode) (First) vs. Spryzen S2 Gravity Zephyr (Second): Wombat
- C3.K.Yr-S: 7 OS (70% Win Rate)
- S2.G.Z: 2 OS, 1 Burst (30% Win Rate)

(Attack Mode) Cognite C3 Knuckle Yard-S (Battle Ring Mode) (First) vs. Spryzen S2 Gravity Zephyr (Second Sliding Shoot): Wombat
- C3.K.Yr-S: 1 Burst, 1 OS (20% Win Rate)
- S2.G.Z: 3 Burst, 3 OS, 2 KO (80% Win Rate)

(Attack Mode) Cognite C3 Knuckle Yard-S (Battle Ring Mode) (First) vs. Spryzen S2 Gravity Zephyr (Second): Wombat
- C3.K.Yr-S: 0 Wins (0% Win Rate)
- S2.G.Z: 8 OS, 2 Burst (100% Win Rate)

Yegdrion Y2 Knuckle Yard-S (Battle Ring Mode) (First) vs. Spryzen S2 Gravity Zephyr (Second Sliding Shoot): Wombat
- Y2.K.Yr-S: 5 Burst, 3 OS (80% Win Rate)
- S2.G.Z: 2 OS (20% Win Rate)

Yegdrion Y2 Knuckle Yard-S (Battle Ring Mode) (First) vs. Spryzen S2 Gravity Zephyr (Second): Wombat
- Y2.K.Yr-S: 7 OS (70% Win Rate)
- S2.G.Z: 3 OS (30% Win Rate)
Yegdrion Y2 Knuckle Yard-S (Battle Ring Mode) (First) vs. Valtryek V2 Knuckle Jolt-S (Battle Ring Mode) (Second Sliding Shoot): Wombat
- Y2.K.Yr-S: 5 OS, 3 Burst (80% Win Rate)
- V2.K.Jl-S: 2 KO (20% Win Rate)

Yegdrion Y2 Knuckle Yard-S (Battle Ring Mode) (First) vs. Wonder Valtryek V4 Knuckle Jolt-S (Battle Ring Mode) (Second Sliding Shoot): Wombat
- Y2.K.Yr-S: 6 OS, 2 Burst, 1 KO (90% Win Rate)
- WV4.K.Jl-S: 1 KO (10% Win Rate)

Yegdrion Y2 Knuckle Yard-S (Battle Ring Mode) (First) vs. Z Achilles A4 Knuckle Jolt-S (Battle Ring Mode) (Second Sliding Shoot): Wombat
- Y2.K.Yr-S: 5 OS, 4 Burst (90% Win Rate)
- ZA4.K.Jl-S: 1 KO (10% Win Rate)

Forneus F4 Gravity Orbit (First) vs. Spryzen S2 Gravity Zephyr (Second Sliding Shoot): Wombat
- F4.G.O: 3 Burst (30% Win Rate)
- S2.G.Z: 4 Burst, 3 KO (70% Win Rate)

Luinor L4 Polish Destroy (Odd Weak) vs. Kerbeus Yell Revolve (Even Weak): Wombat
- L4.P.Ds: 0 Wins (0% Win Rate)
- K.Y.R: 10 OS (100% Win Rate)
Forneus F4 Gravity Orbit (First) vs. Treptune Heavy Zephyr (Second Sliding Shoot): Rebel Blader
- F4.G.O: 6 OS (60% Win Rate)
- T.H.Z: 3 Burst, 1 OS (40% Win Rate)

Yegdrion Spread Orbit (First) vs. Treptune Heavy Zephyr (Second Sliding Shoot): Rebel Blader
- Y.S.O: 0 Wins (0% Win Rate)
- T.H.Z: 10 Burst (100% Win Rate)

Yegdrion Y2 Knuckle Orbit (First) vs. Treptune Yell Destroy (Second Sliding Shoot): Rebel Blader
- Y2.K.O: 5 OS, 1 Burst (60% Win Rate)
- T.Y.Ds: 3 OS, 1 Burst (40% Win Rate)

Kerbeus Heavy Defense (First) vs. Treptune Knuckle Jolt-S (Battle Ring Mode) (Second Sliding Shoot): Rebel Blader
- K.H.D: 9 OS, 1 Burst (100% Win Rate)
- T.K.Jl-S: 0 Wins (0% Win Rate)
(Jan. 25, 2019  7:11 PM)CheetoBlader Wrote:
(Jan. 23, 2019  4:11 PM)bblader/90 Wrote: Oh, really? I thought it had a strong spring.

The Takara Tomy Orbit has a good spring the Hasbro Orbit is average

(Jan. 29, 2019  10:51 PM)lilphilyb Wrote: no it's not on the banlist
I bought an Anubion A2, and the Orbit is actually a lot stronger. Which is good, because I got a Revolve, and it honestly feels a little weaker than the new Orbit. Still both better than my old Orbit.
(Feb. 02, 2019  9:17 PM)#Fafnir Wrote:

Sounds pretty good. I may try it out. Idk how effective it will be TBH, it just seems that the stamina isn't there just because of Ds and G2 not having the best stamina. Maybe though, thanks for the combo!
I have done some testing with the combo, and it has a good matchup against most defense types if you tornado stall, a decent stamina matchup if you sliding shoot, and amazing performance against traditional attack. Stationary attack is a big problem though
kjrules17 i would love to see some attack types with xtreme, but i would like to know what happened to yours now that they are out of commission?
(Feb. 07, 2019  1:21 AM)gxpt2000 Wrote: kjrules17 i would love to see some attack types with xtreme, but i would like to know what happened to yours now that they are out of commission?
I should be getting some new Xtremes soon, in the meantime, I just use Hunter and Jolt-S for testing Mobile Attack Combos.
(Feb. 07, 2019  4:02 AM)kjrules17 Wrote:
(Feb. 07, 2019  1:21 AM)gxpt2000 Wrote: kjrules17 i would love to see some attack types with xtreme, but i would like to know what happened to yours now that they are out of commission?
I should be getting some new Xtremes soon, in the meantime, I just use Hunter and Jolt-S for testing Mobile Attack Combos.

Does hasbro xtreme wear down? How does a worn xtreme affect performance?
(Feb. 07, 2019  9:15 PM)gxpt2000 Wrote: Does hasbro xtreme wear down? How does a worn xtreme affect performance?
Yes, it does. I'm not entirely sure about the change in performance, as I usually would just get new ones as opposed to trying to use worn ones for testing.
Can someone test Doomscizor on a couple of different Stamina customs? I've been wondering if it could be used as an alternative to Deathscyther, but I remember it bursts fairly frequently. Would using Spread or Knuckle over something like Gravity help it more? Mostly thinking Revolve or Orbit here.
(Feb. 10, 2019  4:55 PM)Suzaku-X Wrote: Can someone test Doomscizor on a couple of different Stamina customs? I've been wondering if it could be used as an alternative to Deathscyther, but I remember it bursts fairly frequently. Would using Spread or Knuckle over something like Gravity help it more? Mostly thinking Revolve or Orbit here.
I've done some tests with Doomscizor on Orbit, check the beginning of this thread. If you want me to try some other stuff, just let me know the combos and I'll get to it when I get the chance.
(Feb. 10, 2019  5:00 PM)kjrules17 Wrote:
(Feb. 10, 2019  4:55 PM)Suzaku-X Wrote: Can someone test Doomscizor on a couple of different Stamina customs? I've been wondering if it could be used as an alternative to Deathscyther, but I remember it bursts fairly frequently. Would using Spread or Knuckle over something like Gravity help it more? Mostly thinking Revolve or Orbit here.
I've done some tests with Doomscizor on Orbit, check the beginning of this thread. If you want me to try some other stuff, just let me know the combos and I'll get to it when I get the chance.

Ok, uhh
D.K/S.R vs any competitive combo you wish
D.G/H.R vs the same above
Also, try the Orbit combo with Spread or Knuckle against that too
(Feb. 10, 2019  5:19 PM)Suzaku-X Wrote: Ok, uhh
D.K/S.R vs any attack combo you wish
D.G/H.R vs the same above
I'll just put all of them up against Spryzen S2 Gravity Zephyr.
Will a tier list be made for this format?