I don't like the lack of a part for customing weight.
A MFB blade with a heavy Wheel (like Libra) is almost "unupperable".
A MFB blade, which is made for upper attack, would be useless if the wheel is light.
And the MFB serie is too aggresive and own useless parts.
(Nov 22 2008 09:06 AM)Darkal68 wrote ... [ -> ]I don't like the lack of a part for customing weight.
I think this is a pretty interesting point. Before we used to be able to nullify disadvantages of parts by altering the WD. Now, we have to take the disadvantages of the Wheel with the advantages and try to offset them with the Track and the Bottom. It's different, but I'm not sure it's necessarily bad. Just look at HMS. Everyone just used Circle Wide or CWDs anyway.
Quote:A MFB blade with a heavy Wheel (like Libra) is almost "unupperable".
And this wasn't the case before? Heavy Beyblades have always been difficult to Upper. Find another way to fight it.
(Nov 21 2008 12:50 AM)G wrote ... [ -> ]I'm not as interested in MFB as I should be... I keep up with the news and such, but it still doesn't spark my interest as well as it should. This could be because my MFBs are still waiting to be shipped from MOJ since the only one I've had experience with is Sagittario.
Edit: but yeah, I have the same opinion about how we went too far back in technology.
(Nov 22 2008 04:57 AM)Blue wrote ... [ -> ]I don't care for the fact that wheels are coated in some weird paint. Bare metal is sexier.
I remember saying I'll wait till christmas before buying and its close but I really dont care for them...
Pretty sad to see two veterans who are pretty important to the community posting this.
I think you've covered just about everything I don't like about them either, Except I think they've cheaped out on Winders (Much thinner/flimsier than plastic gen/HMS gen) as well as the packaging, I loved the old packages because some of the box artwork was lovely.
Like I said, I haven't really tried anything but Sagittario... terrible first impression. If I had as much free time as I used to, I would have just ordered everything from Ideal instead of waiting for the MFBs to come from Japan. If I timed my ordering correctly though, it should come during my winder break when I have a month off.
Another way of putting it for me is that if you used to drive, then suddenly you were forced to rely on biking to get around. You don't like that change, but there's nothing you can do about it except get used to it and wait for another change to occur. I'm just in the process of trying to get that bike even.
Your metaphor needs the fact that less and less people are using cars, while you'll soon have many people riding bikes with you.
(Nov 22 2008 03:47 PM)Sasch wrote ... [ -> ]Your metaphor needs the fact that less and less people are using cars, while you'll soon have many people riding bikes with you.
Ok, if you want to add that in, sure, but I never said I wasn't going to stick with a car forever.
My point is that in my current position, it's not possible for me to get back my strong interest at this time. I prefer to find things out myself since I'm a doer first, then a thinker later. You gain a better understanding of the parts that way and then you can compare the results you find to other people's on the forum. That's what I did back at OtC. Most of my posts were just in the Hobby and Customization forums since I was always learning from my hours of just sitting down and trying out combinations first hand and then seeing how the parts worked. The drive to learn things by experience was what connected me strongly with the game.
I'm just saying even if my interest isn't strong with MFB right now, I should be able to get back my interest once my YJA package comes that contains my MFBs.
(Nov 22 2008 12:31 PM)Dreamborn wrote ... [ -> ]I think you've covered just about everything I don't like about them either, Except I think they've cheaped out on Winders (Much thinner/flimsier than plastic gen/HMS gen) as well as the packaging, I loved the old packages because some of the box artwork was lovely.
I think that this was an intentional decision that probably had little to do with costs.
At the end of the this thread makes me laugh, we never complained when beyblade first came out but you can complain if you want but theres not really a point other then expressing opinions. Think MFB as being the first beyblade series BAM you cant complain then cause thats all you know so far, what I mean to say is its a new beggining for all of us so rejoyce!
I think too much depends on the Wheel for performance. Weight distribution, attacking capabilities, spin direction...that's one major difference from the old series.
Most of the parts had an equal amount of jobs, but now it seems that all of those jobs are now pushed onto the Wheel. The Track, right now, only manages the height, and the Bottom, right now, only manages the movement pattern. Everything else the blade does revolves (heheheh) around the Wheel.
The decrease in power from HMS to MFB is disappointing, but I can deal with that, since it makes tons of sense why it happened. I'm OK with that.
The Shooter drives me insane, but that's because I'm used to the HMS shooter.
MFB has a lot of redeeming qualities, the REVIVAL OF BEIBURAIDO being one of the bigger qualities. I think most people are just expecting the same experience from the old series with this new one, when it's not going to happen. This is a new beginning, as it's been pointed out multiple times before, so it's not really fair to dislike MFB because it isn't the same as HMS.
Well, it really is a letdown that MFB is not better than HMS in the manner of its performance
However, as Grey stated since MFB represents the Revival of Beyblade, we should not really complain that much even though I will be feeling bad about spinning direction issue when I get my hands on Wolf...
As a matter of fact, if we assume first MFBs released as the beginning of the Beyblade(First 6 months), they're hell far more better than both Plastics and HMS that were if we compare them only for their generation
(Nov 23 2008 09:43 PM)savatoex wrote ... [ -> ]At the end of the this thread makes me laugh, we never complained when beyblade first came out but you can complain if you want but theres not really a point other then expressing opinions. Think MFB as being the first beyblade series BAM you cant complain then cause thats all you know so far, what I mean to say is its a new beggining for all of us so rejoyce!
You cannot ask people to just forget what they know. We are veterans; of course we are going to see the new series relative to the old one.
(Nov 23 2008 10:03 PM)Grey wrote ... [ -> ]I think too much depends on the Wheel for performance. Weight distribution, attacking capabilities, spin direction...that's one major difference from the old series.
Most of the parts had an equal amount of jobs, but now it seems that all of those jobs are now pushed onto the Wheel. The Track, right now, only manages the height, and the Bottom, right now, only manages the movement pattern. Everything else the blade does revolves (heheheh) around the Wheel.
I don't see how, structurally, MFB is that different from HMS. The Wheel and AR are essentially the same. WDs are no longer necessary, and the plastic CWD part is relegated to the Track. The Track takes the job of CWD, and half of the RC. The Bottom is the other half of the RC. When you lay them out together, they are very similar. The only difference is fundamentally that tip shape and Beyblade height are no longer connected.
(Nov 24 2008 01:51 AM)ZenX wrote ... [ -> ]Well, it really is a letdown that MFB is not better than HMS in the manner of its performance
This is relative. Current MFB are unable to beat the
best of the HMS era, which is understandable. However, Pegasis, a plastic-flat tipped Beyblade, the first MFB released, is able to hold its own against Wolborg MS. Once we see more advanced Tracks and Bottoms, HMS will not be a major hinderance for MFB. Only the spin-direction duality will be the major factor.
I've had a go at one round Sams house and while i might not know a lot about MFB i can still say that; compared with the plastic series & HMS - it feels less fun. [/align]
@bey brad I meant that hypeothetically of course you cant forget but just be happy its back
(Nov 24 2008 07:31 PM)savatoex wrote ... [ -> ]@bey brad I meant that hypeothetically of course you cant forget but just be happy its back
Who's not happy?
(Nov 24 2008 04:03 AM)Bey Brad wrote ... [ -> ] (Nov 23 2008 10:03 PM)Grey wrote ... [ -> ]I think too much depends on the Wheel for performance. Weight distribution, attacking capabilities, spin direction...that's one major difference from the old series.
Most of the parts had an equal amount of jobs, but now it seems that all of those jobs are now pushed onto the Wheel. The Track, right now, only manages the height, and the Bottom, right now, only manages the movement pattern. Everything else the blade does revolves (heheheh) around the Wheel.
I don't see how, structurally, MFB is that different from HMS. The Wheel and AR are essentially the same. WDs are no longer necessary, and the plastic CWD part is relegated to the Track. The Track takes the job of CWD, and half of the RC. The Bottom is the other half of the RC. When you lay them out together, they are very similar. The only difference is fundamentally that tip shape and Beyblade height are no longer connected.
They're different because of the increased reliance on the Wheel. Now, the Wheel does everything that both the AR, SG and WD did of the old series, with the job of the Base/RC split between the Track and Bottom.
Just makes it harder to choose the correct Wheel, I guess.
I really hate how the shooters all skip. I have eight shooters and only one of them works properly, and that's only 40% or so of the time. It won't work any more with Libra because of its weight.
The string shooter is slightly better but it still skips.
They're too expensive
I WILL NOT BE CENSORED
(Nov 26 2008 05:49 AM)Anubis wrote ... [ -> ]I really hate how the shooters all skip. I have eight shooters and only one of them works properly, and that's only 40% or so of the time. It won't work any more with Libra because of its weight.
The string shooter is slightly better but it still skips.
Yeah, that's really really bad. Just one more tooth on the cog would solve that problem.
Don't like the loss of bit beast motifs on the wheels.
Now they look more like random toys
Luckily it isn't too bad.