I am not trying to prove they are better than traditional controls, but I am just saying that they work (at least to me they did).
Resident Evil 4 Wii was pretty good man.
The game itself was fine.
The controls, however...
were universally acclaimed
Compared to the Gamecube controls they are obviously a step up.
But I still don't think they hold up as far as modern shooters go. Resident Evil 4 is a good example of how to do a shooter on Wii, but its far from perfect and I still prefer analog control to pointing with the Wii remote. Maybe its because I have an unsteady hand, but when I owned RE4Wii I had a hard time aiming and successfully shooting anything where I had been aiming because when I pressed the button to fire the controller would move causing my aim to move. Again, that may be more of a problem with my unsteady hand than the controller itself, but regardless it frustrated me. I guess what I'm trying to say is that no matter what you set it to, the Wii remote is always a little bit too sensitive.
Metroid Prime 3 is without a doubt the best example of first person controls on Wii, but even that game has issues like I mentioned, specifically the way the game handles turning your character.
(Nov 17 2008 04:04 AM)Kei wrote ... [ -> ] (Nov 16 2008 07:29 PM)Pikachao wrote ... [ -> ]Red Steel. It was HORRIBLE.
This explains a lot. Red Steel was indeed horrible. I have said this numerous times lately, but try playing MoH: H2, MP3, or RE4: Wii Edition (still a shooter) and you will understand how FPS should be on the Wii.
funny how you mention those three games everytime this is brought up
i mean okay, wii has 3 (technically 2 since mp isnt considered a shooter by nintendo) decent shooters. now how many does xbox 360 and ps3 have? not even comparable. so of course controllers are better for fps (and clearly mouse/keyboard too)
(Nov 17 2008 02:37 AM)Bey Brad wrote ... [ -> ]pegasis is the brandonk of wii
does this means youll BAN me !?
lol
i dont offend others like brandonk,there is a huge difference
so guys no 1 answered me,is the pc game worth spending my money on it?
(Nov 17 2008 12:12 PM)SK wrote ... [ -> ]wii has 3 (technically 2 since mp isnt considered a shooter by nintendo) decent shooters. now how many does xbox 360 and ps3 have? not even comparable.
Having a billion different WW2 shooters and stuff, along with the occasional burnout game is NOT good. I like unique stuff. Don't be anti-wii (although I must admit that the 'new' controls get kinda boring after a while). I'd rather pay for a decent GC game nowadays or go play CTR than bother with a new game. I'm too nostalgic about games maybe? Meh.
I just like games that are unique but still use a joypad. I LOVED N64 games. <3
Anyways, PC controls for FPS > Wii controls for FPS. End of.
(Nov 17 2008 12:12 PM)SK wrote ... [ -> ]funny how you mention those three games everytime this is brought up
i mean okay, wii has 3 (technically 2 since mp isnt considered a shooter by nintendo) decent shooters. now how many does xbox 360 and ps3 have? not even comparable. so of course controllers are better for fps (and clearly mouse/keyboard too)
Why would you bring something like this up? How does it make sense to say that the FPS controls are better on standard controllers/mouse and keyboard simply because of that (I ask because the way you have worded it makes it seem that it is a fact, which it is not)?
The only people you can blame for the amount of FPS's on the Wii are the developers themselves. It has been proven that the genre can work well on the system (putting aside all personal preferences, of course), so there is no reason for developers to not want to put out FPS games on the Wii. This is proven by those games I always make an example of and the fact that CoD: WaW was developed for the PS3/360, and the Wii this time around shows that it has become more generally accepted by developers.
Roan, I believe you may be correct in saying that your unsteady hand played a factor in your frustration with the RE4: Wii Edtion controls. I had no such problem. I can understand your problem, however.
(Nov 17 2008 08:34 PM)Kei wrote ... [ -> ] (Nov 17 2008 12:12 PM)SK wrote ... [ -> ]funny how you mention those three games everytime this is brought up
i mean okay, wii has 3 (technically 2 since mp isnt considered a shooter by nintendo) decent shooters. now how many does xbox 360 and ps3 have? not even comparable. so of course controllers are better for fps (and clearly mouse/keyboard too)
The only people you can blame for the amount of FPS's on the Wii are the developers themselves. It has been proven that the genre can work well on the system (putting aside all personal preferences, of course), so there is no reason for developers to not want to put out FPS games on the Wii.
You could also blame the core audience of the Wii. Most people buying Wii are not interested in FPS games whatsoever.
(Nov 17 2008 05:57 PM)Pikachao wrote ... [ -> ]I like unique stuff. Don't be anti-wii.
Unique stuff like Braid, LittleBigPlanet, Mirror's Edge, Fable, Fallout, and a bunch of other amazing games for PS3 and 360 (moreso 360)?
What does the Wii have that's so unique? And really, don't try to tell people what they're allowed to have opinions about.
(Nov 17 2008 08:34 PM)Kei wrote ... [ -> ] (Nov 17 2008 12:12 PM)SK wrote ... [ -> ]funny how you mention those three games everytime this is brought up
i mean okay, wii has 3 (technically 2 since mp isnt considered a shooter by nintendo) decent shooters. now how many does xbox 360 and ps3 have? not even comparable. so of course controllers are better for fps (and clearly mouse/keyboard too)
Why would you bring something like this up? How does it make sense to say that the FPS controls are better on standard controllers/mouse and keyboard simply because of that (I ask because the way you have worded it makes it seem that it is a fact, which it is not)?
The only people you can blame for the amount of FPS's on the Wii are the developers themselves. It has been proven that the genre can work well on the system (putting aside all personal preferences, of course), so there is no reason for developers to not want to put out FPS games on the Wii. This is proven by those games I always make an example of and the fact that CoD: WaW was developed for the PS3/360, and the Wii this time around shows that it has become more generally accepted by developers.
Roan, I believe you may be correct in saying that your unsteady hand played a factor in your frustration with the RE4: Wii Edtion controls. I had no such problem. I can understand your problem, however.
well they are generally acknowledged as the better option for shooters, by most people. the fact that 360/ps3 has alot more quality shooters than wii just confirms that, especially considering the wii and ps3 have been out for around the same amount of time
oh and im pretty sure the only reason treyarch made a wii version was so they could earn more money? sorta like how they also made a ps2 and a ds version
(Nov 17 2008 08:50 PM)Bey Brad wrote ... [ -> ] (Nov 17 2008 05:57 PM)Pikachao wrote ... [ -> ]I like unique stuff. Don't be anti-wii.
Unique stuff like Braid, LittleBigPlanet, Mirror's Edge, Fable, Fallout, and a bunch of other amazing games for PS3 and 360 (moreso 360)?
What does the Wii have that's so unique? And really, don't try to tell people what they're allowed to have opinions about.
My point was meant to be against his "It has next to no FPS games so it sucks" type comment. Sorry if it seemed different. I was trying to make the point that games other than FPS games can be good.
(Nov 17 2008 09:31 PM)Pikachao wrote ... [ -> ] (Nov 17 2008 08:50 PM)Bey Brad wrote ... [ -> ] (Nov 17 2008 05:57 PM)Pikachao wrote ... [ -> ]I like unique stuff. Don't be anti-wii.
Unique stuff like Braid, LittleBigPlanet, Mirror's Edge, Fable, Fallout, and a bunch of other amazing games for PS3 and 360 (moreso 360)?
What does the Wii have that's so unique? And really, don't try to tell people what they're allowed to have opinions about.
My point was meant to be against his "It has next to no FPS games so it sucks" type comment. Sorry if it seemed different. I was trying to make the point that games other than FPS games can be good.
if you havent noticed, this thread is about a wii fps vs a pc fps
not about "original games"
(Nov 17 2008 09:31 PM)Pikachao wrote ... [ -> ] (Nov 17 2008 08:50 PM)Bey Brad wrote ... [ -> ] (Nov 17 2008 05:57 PM)Pikachao wrote ... [ -> ]I like unique stuff. Don't be anti-wii.
Unique stuff like Braid, LittleBigPlanet, Mirror's Edge, Fable, Fallout, and a bunch of other amazing games for PS3 and 360 (moreso 360)?
What does the Wii have that's so unique? And really, don't try to tell people what they're allowed to have opinions about.
My point was meant to be against his "It has next to no FPS games so it sucks" type comment.
I have almost a universal hatred of all FPSs, yet I still think the Wii is a piece of crap, and undoubtly the most expensive waste of space I own.
(Nov 17 2008 08:46 PM)Roan wrote ... [ -> ]You could also blame the core audience of the Wii. Most people buying Wii are not interested in FPS games whatsoever.
Sure, that is without a doubt true, but there is a lot of people excited for games like CoD: WaW on Wii and The Conduit. I am sure if the developers put more effort into Wii games, more "core" gamers would be attracted to the console.
(Nov 17 2008 09:16 PM)SK wrote ... [ -> ]well they are generally acknowledged as the better option for shooters, by most people. the fact that 360/ps3 has alot more quality shooters than wii just confirms that, especially considering the wii and ps3 have been out for around the same amount of time
oh and im pretty sure the only reason treyarch made a wii version was so they could earn more money? sorta like how they also made a ps2 and a ds version
That is a good argument. You could also say that a lot of developers are too cautious when it comes to the Wii as well, which could be a reason why the Wii does not have as many FPS games. The standard controller/mouse and keyboard configurations for FPS games have been around much longer than the Wii Remote+Nunchuk configuration.
If any of those were just to make money, they would probably be bad games. However, this is not the case, as the Wii version of CoD: WaW has been received well by critics (high 80's average on GameRankings).
(Nov 17 2008 10:41 PM)Bey Brad wrote ... [ -> ]brandonkei129
Hey, at least I try to legitimately back up my statements.