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The music of old vs the music of today
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The facepalm was about your post, not dubstep.

And with that, I take my leave - it's been an interesting ride, but one can only bang one's head against a wall so many times before they learn - and my head is mighty sore.
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(Mar 21 2012 07:53 AM)Raigeko13 Wrote:  WAH WAH WAH WUBWUBWUBWUB WUBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB WIGGA WUB WAHHHHH WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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Yeah, I totally don't see what he doesn't like about a "tune" and not "music"..

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One thing I would add though (even if this thread is pretty old and i haven't posted for years) is that an awful lot of the music from the 60s 70s or whatever era you would like to pick is awful. For every band from those decades that was great there are hundreds more that were terrible. Only compare this decade with them when you have the benefit of 40 years of hindsight Tongue_out

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personally i like older music because it actualy uses instruments not digital sound made to sound like a guitar or drum set, in my opinion the music of today is more sythisized and technological than real
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(Mar 21 2012 08:06 PM)Benkei Wrote:  One thing I would add though (even if this thread is pretty old and i haven't posted for years) is that an awful lot of the music from the 60s 70s or whatever era you would like to pick is awful. For every band from those decades that was great there are hundreds more that were terrible. Only compare this decade with them when you have the benefit of 40 years of hindsight Tongue_out

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I've actually got some songs lined up that exemplify this, I just need to write up the post, haha.

@Deep Blue: Most recorded guitar is actual guitars, drums depend on the genre.

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(Mar 21 2012 06:32 AM)th!nk Wrote:  Wait, Bey-Heart, Coldplay are one of the most popular bands in modern music. How does that even remotely support the first post, if your favourite band is in fact a modern one, that are extremely popular?
Coldplay started in 1998, with their first song: Yellow. I like music from the late 90's to mid 2000's, that's when it had a lot of good stuff out there, in my opinion. Yes, Coldplay is still around,and styill very popular, but so are a lot of the other bands from around that time like 3 Days Grace, Green Day, Daughtry, Linken Park, Etc. They're just good enough to have kept their popularity.


(Mar 21 2012 08:10 PM)Deep Blue Wrote:  personally i like older music because it actualy uses instruments not digital sound made to sound like a guitar or drum set, in my opinion the music of today is more sythisized and technological than real
I'm sorry, but you don't seem to know what you're talking about. I'm a composer, so let me tell you about it. 98% of the time that you hear a Guitar, it's a real guitar. The only time you hear fake Guitars is in techno and video game music. Or perhaps home made songs. Same goes for percussion instruments such as drums.

When somebody writes a song, they go to a record label to get it produced. Let's say I wrote a very nice rock tune, and all I can do is sing. That's when they hire studio musicians. Studio musicians play the rest of the song for you. It's their job. They get payed to play the guitar and percussion parts of the songs you hear, unless the band members can already play those instruments.

Example: Coldplay has a song called Viva La Vida, you've probably heard it. You know all those string instruments in the background? Those are real musicians playing real instruments. They're studio musicians. They go into the studio and record the song, then they go home after work is over. That's they're job, they enjoy doing that for a living.

You should really train your ears to understand the differences in sound between real instruments and fake ones. Just remember that music in video games is all computer generated, not a single bit of it gets recorded by musicians, not even today. Any thing you hear on a cd for bands like Coldplay, The Fray, Maroon 5, Fall Out Boy, etc is all real, not including the obvious electronic stuff here and there.

The only electronic drumming that's actually used is the Bass.

I could explain this all a lot better in person, but that won't be happening. And my friend Kara knows more about that stuff than I do, she's in a band, so she studied up on studios and studio musicians.
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Firstly, they're still writing and you referred to their most recent album. However, let's run with your logic: so do you think a lot of the songs in the first post will be remembered 20 years from now?

Do you not think, maybe, that the same has happened throughout the history of music going back to the times of Bach and Mozart? (hint: it has).

And with that, I take my leave - it's been an interesting ride, but one can only bang one's head against a wall so many times before they learn - and my head is mighty sore.
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(Mar 21 2012 10:28 PM)th!nk Wrote:  Firstly, they're still writing and you referred to their most recent album. However, let's run with your logic: so do you think a lot of the songs in the first post will be remembered 20 years from now?

Do you not think, maybe, that the same has happened throughout the history of music going back to the times of Bach and Mozart? (hint: it has).
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To be honest I like older music(hip-hop), it was more funky-ish, funny, meaningful ,and positive. Hip-Hop back then was like, telling a story of what that person went through to reach to the top. Uhmm like the song Juicy by Biggie Smalls for example. . . .

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I know rap and hip hop are quite different genres, and I'm no fan of either, but Immortal Technique might be worth listening to, if that's what you're after. He's a lot more recent/"music of today", and pretty much the only Rapper I'm at all interested in.

That said, there was plenty of terrible hip hop dating all the way back to the start, you can pick one good example, but I could probably track down a whole bunch of stuff just as horrible as anything today from the same time period.

And with that, I take my leave - it's been an interesting ride, but one can only bang one's head against a wall so many times before they learn - and my head is mighty sore.
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Adele is a great artist because her lyrics are meaningful. She also has an amazing voice.
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I consider the Beatles pretty good. I still listen to their songs, even though I usually don't listen to older music. I'm more stuck on other bands, like the Newsboys and the Flobots...

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Can't stop listening to this song:

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even if i wasn't a fan of godzilla I would love this music I mean the atmosphere and the mood all combine into one heck of an experience. Best part its all orchestra no lyrics just sit back and enjoy it I take this over the modern pop that is subjected to the radio waves these days.

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It's frustrating when people complain about the "music of today," as if literally ALL of it (or even the majority of it) is similar to what's played on the radio. There is so much absolutely brilliant music out there right now that people seem to be selectively removing from the equation for whatever reason. Personally, I have pretty much nothing against radio s***, but it's absolutely not what i'd focus on in old vs. new music. There has always been terrible music and people to complain about it.

How about the birth of rock n roll? The older generation during that era generally rejected it, hated it, complained about it, etc., and there were heavy racial stigmas because of the black population's influence on that genre. That was a pretty big deal in the '50s. Artists like Elvis, Chuck Berry, and Buddy Holly were considered dangerously sexual and rebellious. If it wasn't good ol' country & western or classical/big band, the older generation wouldn't touch it. Where would we be (musically) without the birth of rock n roll? No idea, yo. My point/tl;dr: rather than b****ing about how bad music apparently is, be stoked about musical evolution and the POSITIVES. There is music out there today for everyone. If you don't dig lyrics, there's stuff out there for you. If you like acoustic, non-electronic, there's stuff out there for you. And vice versa. Etc., etc.
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To Judas: Calm down man I am referring to music of today that is carp, There is music out there in the modern age that sounds great! Also i meant that you don't need lyrics alone to make a masterpiece. I am not stating that its necessarily I am voicing an opinion. Also I listen to a variety of music so don't think im biased ok?

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Wha? I'm totally calm, and I wasn't talking to anyone in particular.
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Most people think music of today sounds all the same which is sort of true but not really. The main reason why some music today sounds a lot like others is because they artist use samples of songs that were either really good or not really popular to boost their songs. The idea was smart at first and credit was given to the artist who originally made the song that's been sampled but nowadays some artist just plagerise samples of other songs. You listen to songs by like Ke$ha, Chris Brown, Rihanna, Jay-Z, One Direction, Justin Bieber, and then if you do a bit of research, you find out they sampled a song without giving credit at all.

I highly prefer music from the late 90s to now than way back when. Like the t-shirts say "The Kids Love Techno" and I'm one of them. But, not at all does music from the 60s, 80s, 70s, and beyond suck. If I ever heard someone say Biggie Small, Beastie Boys, or Beatles suck and Dubstep, One Direction, and/or some rappers are way better, I'd go on a big rage fit.

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(Apr 11 2012 06:12 PM)Judas Wrote:  It's frustrating when people complain about the "music of today," as if literally ALL of it (or even the majority of it) is similar to what's played on the radio. There is so much absolutely brilliant music out there right now that people seem to be selectively removing from the equation for whatever reason. Personally, I have pretty much nothing against radio s***, but it's absolutely not what i'd focus on in old vs. new music. There has always been terrible music and people to complain about it.

How about the birth of rock n roll? The older generation during that era generally rejected it, hated it, complained about it, etc., and there were heavy racial stigmas because of the black population's influence on that genre. That was a pretty big deal in the '50s. Artists like Elvis, Chuck Berry, and Buddy Holly were considered dangerously sexual and rebellious. If it wasn't good ol' country & western or classical/big band, the older generation wouldn't touch it. Where would we be (musically) without the birth of rock n roll? No idea, yo. My point/tl;dr: rather than b****ing about how bad music apparently is, be stoked about musical evolution and the POSITIVES. There is music out there today for everyone. If you don't dig lyrics, there's stuff out there for you. If you like acoustic, non-electronic, there's stuff out there for you. And vice versa. Etc., etc.

The censors are there for a reason. Adding stars in defeats the point.

I admit I have been vague but read my OP. Not saying that all music today sucks, I'm making a comparison between popular culture of the different time periods ie comparing what music gets the most airplay in the present day and age versus what got the most airplay in the old days.

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Hotel California is my all time favourite song. Eagles have very nice taste of music.
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