Shabalabadoo

Tralala lalalala

I th!nk we should really stop with the "Great Attack user or HORRIBLE Attack User" stuff. It really means nothing if a part relies on the best player ever. So let's find what works for the average joe like me.

Raigeko13

SamuRAI IfRAId

Hmm, maybe for a spinsteal combo, something with TH170?
I'd like to request MF LDG TH170/190D/CS against MF-H Basalt Aquario BD145CS, if that's ok with you th!nk!

Shabalabadoo

Tralala lalalala

I remember that was tried for L Drago Destroy, so I'd like to see it for L Drago Guardian as well!

th!nk

~Burning Bright~

(This post was last modified: Dec 08 2011 02:19 AM by th!nk.)

LDG has pretty poor stamina, so any attempt to equalise generally means it loses... It didn't work for LDD, I don't see it working here, but I'll try to get it done (there's a lot of requests at the moment, ahah).

I am going to test MF-H LDG TH170RDF at some point, as there was a similar defensive combo with LDD, but yeah, there's a few more pressing matters at the moment, and I do not have the best endurance for large amounts of testing.

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Janstarblast

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(Dec 08 2011 02:14 AM)th!nk Wrote:  I am going to test MF-H LDG TH170RDF at some point, as there was a similar defensive combo with LDD, but yeah, there's a few more pressing matters at the moment, and I do not have the best endurance for large amounts of testing.

That will be a tower!
TH170 is tall, RDF is tall.
You say LDG is not 'great' with balance.
End result- This combo would end up getting destabilized quite often. Once it loses balance, it will spin upon the Defense ring-like part of RDF. Hence, loss of stamina.
The smash kings would smash too hard into this poor thing, and LDG's design would make it a fish out of the water...
Even if my prediction goes wrong and this actually turns out to be good; it will always remain an underdog, considering we have the dual-spinning Varaires. Also, it would never be able to match the glory of Basalt and Death.
So its better of being used in tourneys of a rookie level...

th!nk

~Burning Bright~

Yeah, but Dan kept nagging me to try it.

I tried it a little and it wasn't very good.

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Janstarblast

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Hm. As expected...
I'll be waiting for Formal Tests, though.
Then again, there's Dan who (as you tell me) is quite confident about this combo...
Weird...
I am also waiting for Dan to chip in and explain his superb theory to us.

th!nk

~Burning Bright~

He doesn't have the parts, and don't quote him on it, he just wanted me to try it out, to see if it was any good
But yeah, I don't know if I'll get around to formal testing, I'd rather focus on things that have potential/need testing, for the time being. Once those are out of the way, MAYBE I can go and try to devise a more creative combo for some parts, but there are new releases on the horizon.

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Janstarblast

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(This post was last modified: Dec 09 2011 02:20 PM by Janstarblast.)

Ah, I am sorry for that.
Hm, we have tried most of the top tier parts which seemed to be good for LDG.
Anything more creative, means that we will have to go on an errand to revive the parts which have already been buried with a tombstone reading- "R.I.P" over their grave....
Lets see how creative we must get!

th!nk

~Burning Bright~

(This post was last modified: Dec 09 2011 03:18 PM by th!nk.)

Eh, it's not too bad a wheel, I'm yet to do formal testing of LDrago Guardian CH120XF or MF-H LDrago Guardian BD145CS, both of which seem decent.

My impressions (take with a pinch of salt): LDG CH120XF manages to narrowly OS MF-H Duo Aquario BD145CS semi-regularly, and did passably against MF-H Basalt Aquario BD145CS, though against my rather aggressive acting Basalt/CS, I had to weak launch LDG and even then, it's still possible to be KO'd, methinks.

MF-H LDG BD145CS is no Duo, but it seems to be a pretty decent defense combo, and it has enough stamina to be weak launched against MF-H Blitz Unicorno 90R2F and do okay, and as usual I don't do well with Variares, but I'd imagine a more skilled Variares user would give it a fair bit of grief.

That said, that should all be taken with a large helping of salt. My thoughts and informal battles are no substitute for proper testing.

I will try to test them when I get time, though, particularly the latter.

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shiwei87tan

have anyone tried Scythe Guardian by having L Drago Guardian's metal frame placed on Kronos's metal frame?

th!nk

~Burning Bright~

They fit together, but do not stay on a launcher properly, and it is obviously illegal to use them like that.

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Whatzzer

Feel da' wrath

(This post was last modified: Dec 10 2011 03:22 AM by Whatzzer.)

That's totally illegal.
EDIT:-Hazel:-He beat me to it.

Hazel

Octorok Shmoctorok!

(Dec 09 2011 07:22 PM)Whatzzer Wrote:  That's totally illegal and stupid.

He'd already been told it was illegal, but you felt the need to further call him stupid?

Drop the attitude.

Relic

(This post was last modified: Dec 27 2011 11:55 AM by Relic.)

Alright, I got some defense tests done for L Drago Guardian :

• Standard Procedure
• Sliding Shoot for VariAres and Blitz
• Mint RSF


MF-H L Drago Guardian BD145RSF vs MF-H VariAres R145R2F (Right Spin) .




MF-H L Drago Guardian BD145RSF : 16/20 ( 7 KOs, 9 OS)
MF-H VariAres R145R2F : 4/20 (4 KOs)

Win Rate for LDG : 80 %


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MF-H L Drago Guardian BD145RSF vs MF-H VariAres R145RF (Left Spin) .

MF-H L Drago Guardian BD145RSF - 15/20 ( 6 KOs, 9 OS)
MF-H VariAres R145RF - 5/20 (5 KOs)

Win Rate for LDG : 75 %.

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MF-H L Drago Guardian BD145RSF vs MF Blitz Unicorno S130R2F


MF-H L Drago Guardian BD145RSF - 16/20 (10 OS, 6 KOs)
MF Blitz Unicorno S130R2F - 4/20 (4 KOs)

Win Rate for LDG - 80 %


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Pretty good, I should say!

th!nk

~Burning Bright~

Wow.

Are you sure you didn't confuse LDG with Duo lol?

That's craaazy.

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Janstarblast

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Seriously, that's CRAZY!!!
If extensive tests prove LDG's Defense worth, the UDXS will be an all out Defense product; considering the fact that Wing is performing just as well.
@Relic- What happens, actually? Is it the rubber, or something else which protects it?

th!nk

~Burning Bright~

The whole set should be called "BB-121 Beyblade Ultimate Defense Set" anyway. From what I've tried so far LDG is at the least a niche defensive beyblade more than anything else.

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Janstarblast

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(Dec 26 2011 11:31 AM)th!nk Wrote:  The whole set should be called "BB-121 Beyblade Ultimate Defense Set" anyway. From what I've tried so far LDG is at the least a niche defensive beyblade more than anything else.

Well yes, it was supposed to be just 'niche'...
Getting a respectable win rate against Smash Monsters, is a big thing...
I never expected rubber-bearing beys to do well against beys of the same spin direction.
MLD was quite OK against Left Spin(OK, TT realized that too and released the Assault/Rush Versions), I don't know about LDD. As for LDG, this thing wrecked VariAres!
At the same time, it performed slightly better against right spin; though the difference is too minute to take into notice.

Glowfire1

Ehh yeah that's a hyper defnse set, can you test it against mf-h beat lynx gb145/ch120 r2f thx