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L-Drago Guardian Discussion
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Its works OK with BD145RF...

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Post: #22

Since weak launching is good against the opposite spin direction, could you try MF-H Guardian L Drago ___ WD/D (Track doesn't matter too much, whatever you feel would work best) with a weak launch vs. MF Blitz Unicorno 90RF?

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(Dec 06 2011 03:18 PM)Whatzzer Wrote:  Now with Wing being bad,this too,I guess Duo is the only hope in that set.I was hoping for this to be a subsitute to LDD.

Check the Wing thread, it may be good for defense.
Same as LDD, knew it.
Hope it does well in spin-steal tests.

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Hey I was going to make this thread but any way (you did better than what I could do) I did a little testing/analyzing and it appears that l drago guardian is a really good 230 fender and it also has great defense against low beys so it would possibly do better with I think 135 as it would be taller than small attack types and yet can still stand up against taller beys but I would not put any ball tip on it against the attack type because it will lose balance and will be knocked out easily but I haven't done much testing yet so I'll give results but could you tell me any combos?

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(Dec 06 2011 07:02 PM)gibsonmac Wrote:  Its works OK with BD145RF...
If I were going to use a defense track like BD145, I would probably use a more defensive tip, maybe RDF... That said, I can see MF LDG BD145RF as anti-meta of some sort, maybe. I mean, it's quite rare that such a heavy wheel will be totally useless.

(Dec 06 2011 09:56 PM)Cyber Blader Wrote:  Since weak launching is good against the opposite spin direction, could you try MF-H Guardian L Drago ___ WD/D (Track doesn't matter too much, whatever you feel would work best) with a weak launch vs. MF Blitz Unicorno 90RF?
I'll give it a shot when I get time, but be warned, I only just got blitz so I still need to adjust to it.

@Bey Ninja 14x: Do whatever you feel like. I don't see it being a good attack wheel, so unless you do get good results for it as an attacker, you may as well do tests to see what it can do Tongue_out As for 135, maybe S130 would be a better choice for the extra weight, but if you're getting magic on 135, go for it!


Anyways, I woke up at 7pm today (don't ask) so I'm not gonna have too much time to do testing straight away, but I will try to get at least Aru's request done, but I want to do some testing with Duo as well!

And with that, I take my leave - it's been an interesting ride, but one can only bang one's head against a wall so many times before they learn - and my head is mighty sore.
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Thanks th!nk. Fit my request in wherever it makes sense for you - I'm in no rush. Especially as I would be delighted to read Duo results from you as well!
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OP Updated with new tests. Most were academic, and then on the last I was pressed for time (LDG was still disappointing though, despite having somewhat of an advantage), so only 10 rounds.

But yeah, still nothing good for the wheel. Do want to try it on CH120XF when I have time, though.

And with that, I take my leave - it's been an interesting ride, but one can only bang one's head against a wall so many times before they learn - and my head is mighty sore.
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Post: #28

I'm saying use it like (LT)MF LLD BD145LRF/RF... so an attack type... where LDD failed as a new LT, LGD does a better job at this.

I'd also suggest S130, and trying non-traditional tips(for attack), such as RDF/MB/RB

I would do testing myself, however real life beckons, and I have to track guitars for the current album my band (after the burial) is working on, and get some serious work done on a series of paintings for school... yeah I have a procrastination problem lol...

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Post: #29

That combo only used BD145 because Lightning needed the extra weight, BD145 is a defensive track that limits contact, not a good choice for an attacker, unless it desperately needs the extra weight, and this is not LDG's problem.

And with that, I take my leave - it's been an interesting ride, but one can only bang one's head against a wall so many times before they learn - and my head is mighty sore.
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gibson:-You don't want to awaken those Fancy names,no?Lets wait patiently for th!nk to test.Hopefully it's not disappointing.
th!nk:-Just like I expected,this thing Is really.Meh.So Hazelnuts joke was true.This LDD overweight himself by eating Cheese Burgers at McDonalds,so it's performance slacked.Dayum you,overweight thing.
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Post: #31

That was my joke, he nicked it. Serious

I will try to do something with MF LDG BD145RF, but I have a number of other tests I want to get done first, and after the stamina and comparative tests with Duo, Death and Phantom I have planned, I will probably be a little "testing fatigued".

And with that, I take my leave - it's been an interesting ride, but one can only bang one's head against a wall so many times before they learn - and my head is mighty sore.
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Oh,I saw Hazelnuts post it somewhere.I hope there's something like:-where LDD slacks,LDG rules.That won't be possible,though.Try 85CS,th!nk!I used that with Meteo during a tournament where BD145+Lightning rules,but then,Meteo L-Drago 85CS is just too good that I got my Gold Face.

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I would imagine something like that would just beg for someone to pull out Variares, stick it in left spin, and wipe you out.
I'll try and get it done, but I've got a lot on my testing plate at the moment, ahah.

And with that, I take my leave - it's been an interesting ride, but one can only bang one's head against a wall so many times before they learn - and my head is mighty sore.
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Don't underestimate it,lol.It's basically like A Scythe Kronos that absorbs all impacts.Thanks in advance,th!nk.

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It is light as hell, I could KO it with Dark.

Seriously, you just played bad attack users.

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(Dec 07 2011 07:04 PM)Dan Wrote:  It is light as hell, I could KO it with Dark.

Seriously, you just played bad attack users.

Weak launch maybe? Also, remember, this was when MF LLD BD145LRF was everywhere, and, well, there it's only making BD contact.

But I already need to test MF LDD 90WD or something as weak launch against blitz, which I guess is a little similar. That said, there seems to be plenty viable counters to Blitz ATM anyway, especially if what some are saying about RDF is true...

And with that, I take my leave - it's been an interesting ride, but one can only bang one's head against a wall so many times before they learn - and my head is mighty sore.
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Trust me, it is light enough + has recoil..

Weak launch is Right on Left or Left on Right.

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Eugh, good point, forgot that left spin was basically the only attack style back then, as opposed to Right Spin being more common atm.

Still, BD145 vs rubber, I can see it happening, though yes, the attacker would need to be pretty average.

Not completely relevant to LDG right now, though, considering it has significant weight to it. Anyway, we'll see how it does when it gets tested, but as I said, long list.

And with that, I take my leave - it's been an interesting ride, but one can only bang one's head against a wall so many times before they learn - and my head is mighty sore.
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Ask Aprizz.... for proof,yo.I used it a while ago,I dunno whether I used MF-H or not.th!nk.This LDG got extra weight,so I wondered if 85CS could work on it.Take your time.Try weak launch too.

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(Dec 07 2011 06:45 PM)Whatzzer Wrote:  Oh,I saw Hazelnuts post it somewhere.I hope there's something like:-where LDD slacks,LDG rules.That won't be possible,though.Try 85CS,th!nk!I used that with Meteo during a tournament where BD145+Lightning rules,but then,Meteo L-Drago 85CS is just too good that I got my Gold Face.

LOL this is ridiculous. You obviously face HORRIBLE attack players.

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