HMS Parts Discussion

Poseidon · Nov 05 2011 12:57 PM

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Ga'Hooleone · Nov 05 2011 01:14 PM

I'm actually trying to get enough money to buy a CWD God Ring (I know someone who has it), but yeah, pretty good design.

I'll be contributing a lot to this, since after today I will have 7 HMS.

Janstarblast · Nov 05 2011 04:01 PM

(Nov 05 2011 12:57 PM)Poseidon Wrote: Eh, good to have a counter-part.
Quite lucky that sea dragon got realesed, it's virtually impossible to find CWD God Ring :/. Thoughts ?

Well, of course. A CWD God Ring is too rare....
I always wanted Shining God, but I never got one. Also, even Sea Dragon is quite rare(?)
CWD Defense Ring are CWD God Ring have almost similar rarities IMO.

**Benjohadi** · Nov 05 2011 04:05 PM

i got sea drake ar..lol..but i dont know how good it is competitively..but it looks ugly..

Poseidon · Nov 05 2011 04:25 PM

It's alright to use in smash, otherwise it's carp. Yeah it is rare, realesed in HMS random boooster act 2, but hasbro came along and realsed as a normal booster.

*Dan* · Nov 05 2011 04:34 PM

I don't get it, is this like HMS random thoughts or something? lol...

Poseidon · Nov 05 2011 04:37 PM

Lol, no just a disscusion of parts ect.

Kei · Nov 06 2011 07:13 AM

I've always wondered exactly how CWD God Ring and CWD Defense Ring compare in terms of performance. God Ring is one gram heavier, but do you think the small nubs surrounding the perimeter would affect performance in any sort of positive way if used on an Upper Attack custom?

I could test it, but don't count on it happening any time soon haha.

*Cye Kinomiya* · Nov 06 2011 08:24 AM

I don't recall too well, but God Ring was supposed to be better for defense because it was free spinning. I could be totally wrong though.

Janstarblast · Nov 06 2011 11:43 AM

Considering Defense was quite 'weak' in the HMS generation, the difference between the two was not quite well defined. But from whatever I have heard, the main difference between the two parts was their weight.
As proof of my answer, I quote Poseidon's post here-

(Nov 05 2011 04:25 PM)Poseidon Wrote: It's alright to use in smash, otherwise it's carp. Yeah it is rare, realesed in HMS random boooster act 2, but hasbro came along and realsed as a normal booster.

This.
The 'RBV' version of Defense Ring was rare(accounting for less tests). And AFAIK, the Hasbro releases were about 3 grams lighter(?)
Also, those nubs around the perimeter might affect the performance if they came in contact, but it would be minute.
About what Cye said, I am not too sure if that was considered as a reason to label God Ring as 'better'. But, doesn't a free spinning part (leave alone bearings) degrade the performance of the bey?

Poseidon · Nov 06 2011 11:51 AM

Heck its too hard to find to reallly compare it, we need JR for this sorrta stuff :/
TBH im sure god ring was better in the day from some what I got told by someone; nethertheless HMS defence wasn't viable realsitically...

Ga'Hooleone · Nov 06 2011 04:14 PM

Actually, God Ring's weight and shape allowed the free spinning part to work very effectively, especially when in conjunction with a tall RC like Bearing Core 2.

@Jan The Hasbro version weighed 2.6 grams lighter IIRC (15g). The TT RBA2 version weighed 17.6g.

**Ultra** · Nov 06 2011 11:34 PM

I don't think slash riger's AR gets enough credit. I think it's just as good as samurai changer's and DEMS' for attack.

Kei · Nov 06 2011 11:42 PM

(Nov 06 2011 08:24 AM)Cye Kinomiya Wrote: I don't recall too well, but God Ring was supposed to be better for defense because it was free spinning. I could be totally wrong though.

Yeah, there's no doubt about that. It's also heavier and smoother. Those qualities also lend themselves well to Stamina/Spin Stealing combos, as well.

I was wondering about it's use in Upper Attack combos, though. The fixed nature of CWD Defense Ring might make it a better choice, now that I think about it.

Janstarblast Wrote:But, doesn't a free spinning part (leave alone bearings) degrade the performance of the bey?

Free-spinning parts generally do degrade the performance of a Beyblade (like CWD Devil Saucer), but if we're talking about parts like CWD God Ring, the War Lion S-AR, Scythe's PC Frame, etc., then no, they don't. Their smoothness prevents them from getting caught on anything.

Poseidon Wrote:Heck its too hard to find to reallly compare it, we need JR for this sorrta stuff :/

I have one. It's the metal part of the CWD that is heavier though, not the ABS plastic part (Defense Ring), so that wouldn't make any difference in testing if you used the 17g CWD part with both Defense Ring and God Ring.

Arupaeo · Nov 07 2011 12:06 AM

And the heavy metal part of CWD comes from Shining God and Sea Dragon (RBv2) correct? Is it present in any other beys?

Forgive my ignorance, but I just started getting into HMS. Smile

Kei · Nov 07 2011 12:10 AM

(Nov 07 2011 12:06 AM)Arupaeo Wrote: And the heavy metal part of CWD comes from Shining God and Sea Dragon (RBv2) correct? Is it present in any other beys?

No, it only came with Sea Dragon from RBA2, I believe. I was just saying that if you wanted to test/compare both CWD's, you could use the 17g CWD from Sea Dragon with God Ring so that there wouldn't be any discrepancy.

Arupaeo · Nov 07 2011 12:17 AM

(Nov 07 2011 12:10 AM)Kei Wrote:
(Nov 07 2011 12:06 AM)Arupaeo Wrote: And the heavy metal part of CWD comes from Shining God and Sea Dragon (RBv2) correct? Is it present in any other beys?

No, it only came with Sea Dragon from RBA2, I believe. I was just saying that if you wanted to test/compare both CWD's, you could use the 17g CWD from Sea Dragon with God Ring so that there wouldn't be any discrepancy.

Ah, the Beywiki said that the CWD God ring weighed 18g so i guess I misunderstood which part of the at weight went where. Thanks!

ACfalcon14 · Nov 07 2011 12:19 AM

(Nov 06 2011 11:34 PM)Ultrablader Wrote: I don't think slash riger's AR gets enough credit. I think it's just as good as samurai changer's and DEMS' for attack.

Im not so sure. ive been testing slash upper against MFB along with DEMS' circle upper and it is very good for attack, but circle upper just got more KO's than slash upper. But this is a small difference and slash upper is a really good substitute and can be used very effectively.

Kei · Nov 07 2011 12:31 AM

(Nov 07 2011 12:17 AM)Arupaeo Wrote: Ah, the Beywiki said that the CWD God ring weighed 18g so i guess I misunderstood which part of the at weight went where. Thanks!

Yeah; the weight used on Beywiki articles for CWDs is that of the regular 15g CWD metal part. So, it would be 15g + 3g for God Ring itself. Defense Ring weighs 2g.

(Nov 07 2011 12:19 AM)ACfalcon14 Wrote: Im not so sure. ive been testing slash upper against MFB along with DEMS' circle upper and it is very good for attack, but circle upper just got more KO's than slash upper. But this is a small difference and slash upper is a really good substitute and can be used very effectively.

Maybe this says something, but you should be testing HMS vs. HMS, not HMS vs. MFB ...

ACfalcon14 · Nov 07 2011 01:19 AM

(Nov 07 2011 12:31 AM)Kei Wrote:
(Nov 07 2011 12:17 AM)Arupaeo Wrote: Ah, the Beywiki said that the CWD God ring weighed 18g so i guess I misunderstood which part of the at weight went where. Thanks!

Yeah; the weight used on Beywiki articles for CWDs is that of the regular 15g CWD metal part. So, it would be 15g + 3g for God Ring itself. Defense Ring weighs 2g.

(Nov 07 2011 12:19 AM)ACfalcon14 Wrote: Im not so sure. ive been testing slash upper against MFB along with DEMS' circle upper and it is very good for attack, but circle upper just got more KO's than slash upper. But this is a small difference and slash upper is a really good substitute and can be used very effectively.

Maybe this says something, but you should be testing HMS vs. HMS, not HMS vs. MFB ...

True. But I dont have enough parts for good defense combos and I find MFB defense combos to be more of a challenge than HMS. They have much more stamina and weight with a metal face.

Poseidon God of Sea BeyRank: #300 (1,048)	Post: #1 (This post was last modified: Mar 09 2012 05:13 PM by Poseidon.) This thread is used for the customisation and parts discussion. Any off-topic relating question will result in a warning. For discussion on HMS in general, please use the HMS general topic. Any question about HMS should asked in the HMS Q and A topic. look at this (Click to View) "Play times over" Thanks CRUelty Plastics request thread, request your combo \|\| What to Buy in Plastics \|\| Plastic Parts Discussion Competative Heavy Metal System Combos\|\| HMS Parts Disscusion
Nov 05 2011 12:57 PM

Ga'Hooleone Fly Free With Me BeyRank: #75 (1,143)	Post: #2 I'm actually trying to get enough money to buy a CWD God Ring (I know someone who has it), but yeah, pretty good design. I'll be contributing a lot to this, since after today I will have 7 HMS. Strong Pokémon. Weak Pokémon. That is only the selfish perception of people. Truly skilled Trainers should try to win with the Pokémon they love best. -Karen
Nov 05 2011 01:14 PM

Janstarblast Kai-netic energy BeyRank: #669 (1,005)	Post: #3 (Nov 05 2011 12:57 PM)Poseidon Wrote: Eh, good to have a counter-part. Quite lucky that sea dragon got realesed, it's virtually impossible to find CWD God Ring :/. Thoughts ? Well, of course. A CWD God Ring is too rare.... I always wanted Shining God, but I never got one. Also, even Sea Dragon is quite rare(?) CWD Defense Ring are CWD God Ring have almost similar rarities IMO. DragonAdopters This epic guy made my epic signature and avatar! I never gave him credit for it as he kept changing his USERNAME!
Nov 05 2011 04:01 PM

Benjohadi Stark Industries BeyRank: #261 (1,058)	Post: #4 i got sea drake ar..lol..but i dont know how good it is competitively..but it looks ugly.. My collection 1 year ago
Nov 05 2011 04:05 PM

Poseidon God of Sea BeyRank: #300 (1,048)	Post: #5 It's alright to use in smash, otherwise it's carp. Yeah it is rare, realesed in HMS random boooster act 2, but hasbro came along and realsed as a normal booster. look at this (Click to View) "Play times over" Thanks CRUelty Plastics request thread, request your combo \|\| What to Buy in Plastics \|\| Plastic Parts Discussion Competative Heavy Metal System Combos\|\| HMS Parts Disscusion
Nov 05 2011 04:25 PM

*Dan* VAL R U BANNED DUDE? BeyRank: #410 (1,031)	Post: #6 I don't get it, is this like HMS random thoughts or something? lol... R.I.P bad seller to the stars!
Nov 05 2011 04:34 PM

Poseidon God of Sea BeyRank: #300 (1,048)	Post: #7 Lol, no just a disscusion of parts ect. look at this (Click to View) "Play times over" Thanks CRUelty Plastics request thread, request your combo \|\| What to Buy in Plastics \|\| Plastic Parts Discussion Competative Heavy Metal System Combos\|\| HMS Parts Disscusion
Nov 05 2011 04:37 PM

Kei DEVILS IN DISGUISE BeyRank: #2 (1,393)	Post: #8 I've always wondered exactly how CWD God Ring and CWD Defense Ring compare in terms of performance. God Ring is one gram heavier, but do you think the small nubs surrounding the perimeter would affect performance in any sort of positive way if used on an Upper Attack custom? I could test it, but don't count on it happening any time soon haha. BEYBLADE CRUSADE 2 - MAY 26 2012 Kei's Beyblade Shop
Nov 06 2011 07:13 AM

*Cye Kinomiya* SOUL BeyRank: #69 (1,152)	Post: #9 I don't recall too well, but God Ring was supposed to be better for defense because it was free spinning. I could be totally wrong though. Credit for the avatar and sig go to Nic. THANK YOU! START LIVING BEFORE YOU START DYING
Nov 06 2011 08:24 AM

Janstarblast Kai-netic energy BeyRank: #669 (1,005)	Post: #10 (This post was last modified: Nov 06 2011 11:57 AM by Janstarblast.) Considering Defense was quite 'weak' in the HMS generation, the difference between the two was not quite well defined. But from whatever I have heard, the main difference between the two parts was their weight. As proof of my answer, I quote Poseidon's post here- (Nov 05 2011 04:25 PM)Poseidon Wrote: It's alright to use in smash, otherwise it's carp. Yeah it is rare, realesed in HMS random boooster act 2, but hasbro came along and realsed as a normal booster. This. The 'RBV' version of Defense Ring was rare(accounting for less tests). And AFAIK, the Hasbro releases were about 3 grams lighter(?) Also, those nubs around the perimeter might affect the performance if they came in contact, but it would be minute. About what Cye said, I am not too sure if that was considered as a reason to label God Ring as 'better'. But, doesn't a free spinning part (leave alone bearings) degrade the performance of the bey? DragonAdopters This epic guy made my epic signature and avatar! I never gave him credit for it as he kept changing his USERNAME!
Nov 06 2011 11:43 AM

Poseidon God of Sea BeyRank: #300 (1,048)	Post: #11 Heck its too hard to find to reallly compare it, we need JR for this sorrta stuff :/ TBH im sure god ring was better in the day from some what I got told by someone; nethertheless HMS defence wasn't viable realsitically... look at this (Click to View) "Play times over" Thanks CRUelty Plastics request thread, request your combo \|\| What to Buy in Plastics \|\| Plastic Parts Discussion Competative Heavy Metal System Combos\|\| HMS Parts Disscusion
Nov 06 2011 11:51 AM

Ga'Hooleone Fly Free With Me BeyRank: #75 (1,143)	Post: #12 Actually, God Ring's weight and shape allowed the free spinning part to work very effectively, especially when in conjunction with a tall RC like Bearing Core 2. @Jan The Hasbro version weighed 2.6 grams lighter IIRC (15g). The TT RBA2 version weighed 17.6g. Strong Pokémon. Weak Pokémon. That is only the selfish perception of people. Truly skilled Trainers should try to win with the Pokémon they love best. -Karen
Nov 06 2011 04:14 PM

Ultra Bow to the OMG Cat! BeyRank: #594 (1,012)	Post: #13 I don't think slash riger's AR gets enough credit. I think it's just as good as samurai changer's and DEMS' for attack. Beyblades don't work under water The anime lied to me! Also i'm currently selling a slightly used advance eterner with launcher and Ripcord. Pm me an offer.
Nov 06 2011 11:34 PM

Kei DEVILS IN DISGUISE BeyRank: #2 (1,393)	Post: #14 (Nov 06 2011 08:24 AM)Cye Kinomiya Wrote: I don't recall too well, but God Ring was supposed to be better for defense because it was free spinning. I could be totally wrong though. Yeah, there's no doubt about that. It's also heavier and smoother. Those qualities also lend themselves well to Stamina/Spin Stealing combos, as well. I was wondering about it's use in Upper Attack combos, though. The fixed nature of CWD Defense Ring might make it a better choice, now that I think about it. Janstarblast Wrote:But, doesn't a free spinning part (leave alone bearings) degrade the performance of the bey? Free-spinning parts generally do degrade the performance of a Beyblade (like CWD Devil Saucer), but if we're talking about parts like CWD God Ring, the War Lion S-AR, Scythe's PC Frame, etc., then no, they don't. Their smoothness prevents them from getting caught on anything. Poseidon Wrote:Heck its too hard to find to reallly compare it, we need JR for this sorrta stuff :/ I have one. It's the metal part of the CWD that is heavier though, not the ABS plastic part (Defense Ring), so that wouldn't make any difference in testing if you used the 17g CWD part with both Defense Ring and God Ring. BEYBLADE CRUSADE 2 - MAY 26 2012 Kei's Beyblade Shop
Nov 06 2011 11:42 PM

Arupaeo Tournament Red X? BeyRank: #11 (1,304)	Post: #15 (This post was last modified: Nov 07 2011 12:07 AM by Arupaeo.) And the heavy metal part of CWD comes from Shining God and Sea Dragon (RBv2) correct? Is it present in any other beys? Forgive my ignorance, but I just started getting into HMS.
Nov 07 2011 12:06 AM

Kei DEVILS IN DISGUISE BeyRank: #2 (1,393)	Post: #16 (Nov 07 2011 12:06 AM)Arupaeo Wrote: And the heavy metal part of CWD comes from Shining God and Sea Dragon (RBv2) correct? Is it present in any other beys? No, it only came with Sea Dragon from RBA2, I believe. I was just saying that if you wanted to test/compare both CWD's, you could use the 17g CWD from Sea Dragon with God Ring so that there wouldn't be any discrepancy. BEYBLADE CRUSADE 2 - MAY 26 2012 Kei's Beyblade Shop
Nov 07 2011 12:10 AM

Arupaeo Tournament Red X? BeyRank: #11 (1,304)	Post: #17 (Nov 07 2011 12:10 AM)Kei Wrote: (Nov 07 2011 12:06 AM)Arupaeo Wrote: And the heavy metal part of CWD comes from Shining God and Sea Dragon (RBv2) correct? Is it present in any other beys? No, it only came with Sea Dragon from RBA2, I believe. I was just saying that if you wanted to test/compare both CWD's, you could use the 17g CWD from Sea Dragon with God Ring so that there wouldn't be any discrepancy. Ah, the Beywiki said that the CWD God ring weighed 18g so i guess I misunderstood which part of the at weight went where. Thanks!
Nov 07 2011 12:17 AM

ACfalcon14 Be Ifraid...	Post: #18 (Nov 06 2011 11:34 PM)Ultrablader Wrote: I don't think slash riger's AR gets enough credit. I think it's just as good as samurai changer's and DEMS' for attack. Im not so sure. ive been testing slash upper against MFB along with DEMS' circle upper and it is very good for attack, but circle upper just got more KO's than slash upper. But this is a small difference and slash upper is a really good substitute and can be used very effectively.
Nov 07 2011 12:19 AM

Kei DEVILS IN DISGUISE BeyRank: #2 (1,393)	Post: #19 (Nov 07 2011 12:17 AM)Arupaeo Wrote: Ah, the Beywiki said that the CWD God ring weighed 18g so i guess I misunderstood which part of the at weight went where. Thanks! Yeah; the weight used on Beywiki articles for CWDs is that of the regular 15g CWD metal part. So, it would be 15g + 3g for God Ring itself. Defense Ring weighs 2g. (Nov 07 2011 12:19 AM)ACfalcon14 Wrote: Im not so sure. ive been testing slash upper against MFB along with DEMS' circle upper and it is very good for attack, but circle upper just got more KO's than slash upper. But this is a small difference and slash upper is a really good substitute and can be used very effectively. Maybe this says something, but you should be testing HMS vs. HMS, not HMS vs. MFB ... BEYBLADE CRUSADE 2 - MAY 26 2012 Kei's Beyblade Shop
Nov 07 2011 12:31 AM

ACfalcon14 Be Ifraid...	Post: #20 (Nov 07 2011 12:31 AM)Kei Wrote: (Nov 07 2011 12:17 AM)Arupaeo Wrote: Ah, the Beywiki said that the CWD God ring weighed 18g so i guess I misunderstood which part of the at weight went where. Thanks! Yeah; the weight used on Beywiki articles for CWDs is that of the regular 15g CWD metal part. So, it would be 15g + 3g for God Ring itself. Defense Ring weighs 2g. (Nov 07 2011 12:19 AM)ACfalcon14 Wrote: Im not so sure. ive been testing slash upper against MFB along with DEMS' circle upper and it is very good for attack, but circle upper just got more KO's than slash upper. But this is a small difference and slash upper is a really good substitute and can be used very effectively. Maybe this says something, but you should be testing HMS vs. HMS, not HMS vs. MFB ... True. But I dont have enough parts for good defense combos and I find MFB defense combos to be more of a challenge than HMS. They have much more stamina and weight with a metal face.
Nov 07 2011 01:19 AM