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Post: #261

I only own 2 HMS Beyblades: MS Wolborg and MSUV Dragoon.

When I battle, the Wolborg MS wins every single damn time, no matter what, although the Dragoon MSUV's spin is faster.

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Apr 12 2012 06:35 PM
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Post: #262

Buy more beys and customize. Wolborg MS is awesome uncustomized, while MSUV has the best attack RC but needs a better AR (and probably WD).

And with that, I take my leave - it's been an interesting ride, but one can only bang one's head against a wall so many times before they learn - and my head is mighty sore.
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Apr 12 2012 06:36 PM
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Arborlite

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Post: #263

I currently ordered 4 more HMS Beyblades (Gaia Dragoon, Draciel MS, Dranzer MS, Driger MS). However, I am relatively new to them and will need to learn/understand how they work a little bit more before I really start customizing.

Although it may sound fun, I don't think that simply switching the disks and the other parts from one beyblade to another is a wise move if you don't know what the change will eventually lead to.

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Post: #264

Arborlite- I may sound a bit dumb, but I suggest you to not play around too much with that MSUV of yours. It is an amazing RC bearer, and its better to not wear it down to much; seeing how rare it is... Smile

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Post: #265

Eehh, none of those are that great, though Draciel's Weight Disk will improve Wolborg, it's a slightly heavier version of it.

You also have to be able to perform a sliding shot effectively (check the article on beywiki) to control MSUV's tip.

As for parts, there's a competitive HMS combo list in the Customization Forum you should check out, to see what's good. MSUV's tip is one of the most expensive and prized parts in beyblade so yeah.

Oh, and yeah, depending on the condition of the tip and bey as a whole, MSUV can be worth a fairly sizeable amount of money, so do keep that in mind.

And with that, I take my leave - it's been an interesting ride, but one can only bang one's head against a wall so many times before they learn - and my head is mighty sore.
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Apr 12 2012 06:42 PM
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Post: #266

Well, experimenting always leads to new results no?

Try to find a Samurai Changer or Death Gargoyle/Dark Effigy MS. The ARs of both are top-tier for attack, and pair well with the MSUV RC.

Never sell that MSUV btw, it's super rare nowadays and extremely expensive.

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Post: #267
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My MSUV is brand new; not a single scratch. All the decals are in perfect condition. And no, I don't spin it very often!

I will read through those articles in order to improve my general knowledge about HMS. It's truly amazing and the more you know about them, the better you eventually become. Thanks!

I also seem to have forgotten about my regular Dragoon HMS, which makes me a 3-HMS beyblade owner. Although it is in a very good condition as well, for some extremely odd my Dranzer GT beats it 6 out of 10. It shouldn't happen at all, considering that HMS > plastics.

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Post: #268
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Yeah, that's probably worth at least $100, depending on who you ask/how much someone wants it, you can probably get more. But I'd say keep it and enjoy it, because it's a pretty rare opportunity to be able to do so.

Dragoon MS is sweet too, you've basically got the three most famous HMS, haha.

As for Dranzer GT beating it, I imagine Dragoon MS lacks the power in its AR to do anything against something that large, and Dranzer GT has decent stamina. It's hard to say with uncustomized beys, haha.

And with that, I take my leave - it's been an interesting ride, but one can only bang one's head against a wall so many times before they learn - and my head is mighty sore.
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Post: #269

Seriously, you've got some extremely nice HMS. Smile
Another rather predictable suggestion-
It'd be better if you do not battle plastics and HMS beys as you may expect them to break, haha!

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Post: #270

Unfortunately, the HMS that I have are also the only ones that I am currently aware of haha!

Regarding plastic vs HMS battles; yes, unfortunately I already broke my Dragoon S after a battle with Wolborg MS. It completely destroyed the plastic cover, although the bit-chip is still intact. Again, this is just another proof of the HMS awesomeness and power!

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Post: #271

Man, if you knew how lucky you were, haha. I won a Dragoon MSUV in an auction yesterday (thanks to Zain), and I'm still ecstatic over the whole thing!

As for Dragoon S, those plastic covers break pretty easily. It's a shame, too, they look great and aren't too easy to come by!

Almost all HMS have BeyWiki articles, we're only missing three: Dranzer MS, Dranzer MF and Aero Knight (and for Dranzer MS, Nocto wrote an awesome draft in the BeyWiki subforum), and as for a list of them, the beyblade parts list on the wiki, ( http://wiki.worldbeyblade.org/index.php/...Parts_List ) includes every links to one of them, and the names of their parts.

And with that, I take my leave - it's been an interesting ride, but one can only bang one's head against a wall so many times before they learn - and my head is mighty sore.
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Post: #272

Oh wow, you won an MSUV?! That's a great thing, man! Grin

This would actually go slightly off topic, but you actually completed the "protagonist collection" of beys, haha!
Dragoon MS/MSUV, Dranzer MS, Driger MS, Draciel MS and Gaia Dragoon MS!
Out of these, the first in the list is the only bey which is tough to obtain. What luck, you have it already!

Not to mention that three out of all the HMS you own currently, are my most favorite HMS beys too- Driger, Wolborg and Dranzer MS.

And as th!nk said, those plastic covers on Dragoon S break too easily.
Still, do not continue with these cross-generation battles, or even the most tough-to-break plastic might get a crack or two...

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(Apr 11 2012 04:51 PM)th!nk Wrote:  
(Apr 11 2012 04:28 PM)Bey Brad Wrote:  this thread gives me so many FEELINGS

Hey, perhaps while you're here, something that would help a couple of us a lot: Do you recall why was it not legal to swap the accessible bearing of Magical Ape MS's Gyro Mode? Sorry to be a bother!

TT banned it once they realized it was very, very strong. Personally IMO Gyro mode should not be allowed at all, it is not really a "Beyblade" to me ...

Wish I'd hung onto my HMS a bit longer, seems they are very valuable now, wow

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Post: #274

It's reaaalllly easy to knock out though, but yeah, I see the point seeing as it wipes out everything that isn't attack (and stands some chance of KOing rubber weight core). Thanks for the explanation, settles that for me Smile

I still consider it a beyblade though, it was meant to be used, even if it wasn't that "beyblade-y". Tongue_out

Yeah, prices are a little crazy right now. Still, HMS are really something.

And with that, I take my leave - it's been an interesting ride, but one can only bang one's head against a wall so many times before they learn - and my head is mighty sore.
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One of the few reasons why I play MFB is because HMS is too expensive for me, TBH. That and Zero-G is really interesting to me.

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Honestly I think spending money on HMS now is pretty much a waste, it's a great system but nothing inherently better than MFB, and the metagame is pretty boring.

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Hm, fair, but I must disagree, have you been following mfb closely? It's always "buy the newest thing to win", and I dunno, but to me they really lack the charm of the earlier series. They're also really heavy which makes launching rather uncomfortable, and while I don't have an msuv until mine arrived next week or so, RF and R2F really aren't anywhere near as nice to use as their plastic equivalents (grip base/Ariel 2's tip), and given how much people go on about the grip flat cores, I imagine it's going to be a similar case. There's also no true metal change tip Wink

I mean, given the price of HMS, it's probably a very fair thing to say, but if you can hunt for bargains it's not such a huge issue.

As for the metagame being boring, that's somewhat true, but it is at least largely attack oriented, so skill does play a fairly large role in it. As for MFB, the metagame shifts and it is much harder to use attack effectively, though it is very rewarding, it's still rather risky, and the overall bias is still somewhat defensive, especially as the increase in weight does favour defense overall when new parts are released. I'm probably being far too negative, but the MFB meta is pretty far from perfect too.

All that said, yes HMS is a huge money sink, especially as there are very few places where running HMS tourneys is feasible, but the system overall is so elegant and charming, that for someone like me who isn't a huge fan of competition anyway, it is largely irrelevant.

And with that, I take my leave - it's been an interesting ride, but one can only bang one's head against a wall so many times before they learn - and my head is mighty sore.
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Post: #278

I only have one hms bey which is Dark Leopard MS.I don't have the launcher for it.

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Post: #279

It's a fun bey. If you need a launcher and ripcord you can find a cheap bey on ebay, though the takara ones often come with broken ripcords and fake replacement ones.

Dark Leopard is a cool bey, there's an article on it on the wiki if you want to read about it Smile

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@th!nk- I have already read the article.People say it's rare...Is it really rare?And I will try to get a ripcord and launcher for it from someone who has a spare one..or I will buy it from someone...

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