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General Hasbro BEYBLADE: Metal... Metal Fury/ Shogun Steel - FALL 2013 [HOBBY]
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(Jan 06 2013 04:52 PM)Beyatic Wrote:  
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(Jan 06 2013 03:39 PM)Sakyoo Wrote:  I think hasbro should make the boxes for Shogun Steel like the TT ones, they are much cooler!
I think we will see a little bit at the toyfair of Shogun Steel, like the metal fury 2 pack from last year
When is this toyfair of Shogun Steel?

The Toy Fair takes place February 10-13 this year. We are not sure if Shogun Steel will be show at the fair, however. It is just speculation based off what Hasbro has done in the past.

I don't think there would be any Shogun Steel there unless Metal Fury was there around the same time last year. Isn't it a little early for them to be making the toys after the title was only announced mid December?
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(Jan 05 2013 09:04 PM)GladiatorGaruda Wrote:  Possibly, yeah my launch power is a lot, after using LL2's a lot and getting used to them, when I started using ripcord launchers again, I just couldn't launch properly if I put my finger inside the hole for the handle. Ever since then I've been launching ripcords by putting my index finger on the bottom of the handle and my thumb on top without putting the fingers through the opening. I can't really explain much more of you don't get it. For one of my ripcords, i think it got stuck so when I pulled it the handle flew off and the cord stayed inside the launcher! For another one, it just started ripping randomly and eventually fell off.

See what you're saying, I do the same thing with my ripcord launchers, you get more power out of it that way

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It's highly likely we'll see it at the toy fair. It's what Hasbro's done since Metal Fusion was introduced.

As for if Shogun Steel will be the main attraction, is another question. (See Beywheelz.)
However, I'm sure they'll showcase it, along with a stadium or two. Pray it's an unaltered Zero-G Stadium.


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(Jan 06 2013 03:39 PM)Sakyoo Wrote:  I think hasbro should make the boxes for Shogun Steel like the TT ones, they are much cooler!

Name the last time you went into a store and saw a toy (excluding the larger sets) in the boy's action figure section that wasn't in a blister-style package or box with a clear window. Hasbro is not Takara Tomy nor will they ever be them. They have specific practices for their products. They give the packaging simple designs that are mostly uniform throughout their lines. If you haven't noticed, the Avengers multipack sets are the same exact box shape as the ones for the Legendary Bladers sets. Also, like other toylines, each Metal Fusion Bey was in the same package as each other, and the same was true about Metal Masters and XTS, and now Metal Fury, [Metal Fury] SparkFX, and Hyperblades. So, what makes you think Hasbro will go out of it's way to make a package to suit each individual Beyblade that, although somewhat uniform, makes them greatly stand out from each other and compete for your attention? Besides, can you imagine if Hasbro did it for all their product lines? Also, Takara Tomy is a smaller company with less product lines that mainly operates in a single highly/extremely competitive and brutal market called Japan.

As for my opinion on Takara Tomy's packaging: they are cool, but, honestly, they're a mess and overwhelming. There's too many logos and text everywhere, but then there's photos and wide array of color and designs, making it even more messy. It works for the Japanese and other Eastern markets, but not the worldwide/US/Western market, which prefers simplicity and uniformity.

(Jan 06 2013 06:42 PM)Raigeko13 Wrote:  It's highly likely we'll see it at the toy fair. It's what Hasbro's done since Metal Fusion was introduced.

As for if Shogun Steel will be the main attraction, is another question. (See Beywheelz.)
However, I'm sure they'll showcase it, along with a stadium or two. Pray it's an unaltered Zero-G Stadium.

Unless Hasbro comes out with yet another major sub-product line for the Beyblade franchise, I highly doubt Shogun Steel will be pushed to the side for the show. Besides, last year, they did focus on the main set for Metal Fury: the very gimmicky Destroyer Dome. Hopefully, they'll do the same for whatever is their version of the Zero-G Stadium, another very gimmicky concept.

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They might release the Zero-G stadium in a set similar to the Destroyer Dome, but I wonder if they will use a weird spin track or something of the sort in the set. Anyway, if a set of the Zero-G stadium is created, I can't imagine what name Hasbro would give it.
Sphere 360 -> Destroyer Dome
Zero-G -> ???????
(Someone said something like this before, I just thought I would bring it up again)
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Wonder if Hasbro will release there regular launchers with the Shogun Steel beys. Hasbro launchers can't don't do very well launching synchrom combos if I recall correctly.

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(Jan 06 2013 10:35 PM)Tri Wrote:  Wonder if Hasbro will release there regular launchers with the Shogun Steel beys. Hasbro launchers can't don't do very well launching synchrom combos if I recall correctly.

Don't know what your talking about, I can launch Dragoon Phoenic BD145MF (random syncrom I made) with a Hasbro launcher FAR better than I can with a Compact launcher with a grip.

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I never said they would release with the compact launchers, all I said was I wonder if they will release with there regular launchers, not necicarilly meaning compact launchers as the alternative.

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Hasbros light launchers have no power.
I really wish they would release more string launchers in stores. I see some online but the only one I ever saw in store not in a set was the rev-up and I have a feeling mine was broke brand new. Discovered a tooth missing on a gear soon after using it... And if they'd ever create a good L/R would be nice...
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(Jan 07 2013 12:08 AM)Tri Wrote:  I never said they would release with the compact launchers, all I said was I wonder if they will release with there regular launchers, not necicarilly meaning compact launchers as the alternative.

My comment had nothing to do with what launchers would come with the Beyblades, it was only to state that Hasbro launchers are perfectly capable of launching Synchrom combos with ease.
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(Jan 07 2013 12:42 AM)Coach Wrote:  Hasbros light launchers have no power.
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I'd say otherwise..

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I wouldn't. Hasbro launchers junk compared even to the TT light launcher 2.

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(Jan 07 2013 01:25 AM)Outnumbered Wrote:  I wouldn't. Hasbro launchers junk compared even to the TT light launcher 2.
Once again, I say otherwise.

From the many test launches I just finished doing, my conclusion is that the Hasbro launcher's power ranges from equal or slightly greater power than that of my LL2.
I say this because the launches with the LL2, while powerful, they weren't consistent enough for my tastes. Hasbro's launcher however, had the same power if not slightly greater than the LL2 while being much more consistent, much smoother, and can handle the heavier beys much easier.

And if you are wondering, I tested with Wing Pegasis 90WF (Hasbro), Screw Capricorne 90MF, and Diablo Kerbecs BD145EDS (EDS is rather offensive).
I'd make video proof if necessary.

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Huh. Maybe we have different Hasbro launchers -.-...not to be rude or anything, but I completely disagree. The Hasbro launchers I own are so weak, F:D doesnt even change modes, it just goes nuts. Maybe theres something wrong with every one of my Hasbro launchers, but I dont think so. Anyway, sorry for going off topic.

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Yes, seriously, this whole Beyblade community disagrees with you on that subject, Ryuujin EX, and we have been testing things extensively since 2008. Hasbro's "ripcord launchers" are horrible, equal to a simple Light Launcher at most.

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It's not a matter of the community, it's a simple matter of the gear ratio on them being utterly abysmal - it's an immutable fact that they are weak, not some subjective thing that can be argued about. The LL1, which is the launcher hasbro are still using (they use the same internals unless I remember incorrectly), is the weakest non-gimmick launcher in the entire beyblade line - and unlike the TT LL1, they don't even come with a sizable ripcord.

Only the String Launchers approach the power of the regular launchers used for Plastics, and even then, it's only close when the string launcher is used well.

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The hasbro light launcher is also poorly made at times, with brand new light launchers already faulty and skipping gears (especially with the Tempo printed light launchers).
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(Jan 07 2013 05:06 AM)th!nk Wrote:  It's not a matter of the community, it's a simple matter of the gear ratio on them being utterly abysmal - it's an immutable fact that they are weak, not some subjective thing that can be argued about. The LL1, which is the launcher hasbro are still using (they use the same internals unless I remember incorrectly), is the weakest non-gimmick launcher in the entire beyblade line - and unlike the TT LL1, they don't even come with a sizable ripcord.

Only the String Launchers approach the power of the regular launchers used for Plastics, and even then, it's only close when the string launcher is used well.

My comment was more : "subjective or objective, in a poll, all the veterans are on the same side against you, therefore chances are very high that they are right whatever you think".

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(Jan 07 2013 05:16 AM)Infie Wrote:  The hasbro light launcher is also poorly made at times, with brand new light launchers already faulty and skipping gears (especially with the Tempo printed light launchers).
I honestly had that problem with a lot of the launchers from Hasbro. the thing is, I've never really had this problem with nearly all of the launchers from the Metal Fury line that I've purchased.
About all of the launchers from before then pretty much sucked. I forgot to mention this earlier however, as I wasn't paying attention to all the details. What I'm saying is that all of my good launchers, save for a few, came from Metal Fury or later.
Edit: Man, I'm too slow...

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I feel that objective proof is better than opinion, haha. Either way, we agree that the launchers are terrible.

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There is hardly any difference in them, from what I see. I always felt that Metal Fusion Launchers weren't built as well as the Metal Masters and up, but it barely made any difference. If these solo spin times seem a bit low to anyone, it's because my Duo shakes like there's no tomorrow. No matter what I put on there, it shakes, so in turn, it's slightly aggressive at the beginning of the battle.

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