BBG-17 Zero-G Random Booster Vol. 2 Archer Gargole SA165WSF

Kai-V · Jul 12 2012 01:37 PM

Archer Gargoyle is the Beyblade that has SA165 and WSF.
http://ameblo.jp/1974-mshr/image-1130077...29309.html
Is it really just silver and black ... ?

I also predict that the actual name of this Beyblade will be Archer Gargol or something like that ...

*th!nk* · Jul 12 2012 01:44 PM

I still expect to be surprised by something even more ludicrous than that.

Still, that looks quite decently balanced, although we can't see the other side yet, and I'm a little concerned the black areas on the wheel might be holes, maybe we'll finally get a wheel that's good for anything other than defense from zero g. It also reminds me a lot of the original Death Gargoyle from plastics, though maybe that's just because of the name.

Interesting that they're reusing the Crystal Wheel, Track and Tip, even though the latter two are very rare... Almost makes me wonder if it isn't like the second Phoenic beyblade from the first Zero G RB, haha, or that they're going further with what they did with the red Thief, E230 and GCF.

Dracomageat · Jul 12 2012 01:49 PM

Yeah, it looks like it's very circular and very balanced (comparitively) but very hollow to make up for its strengths.

Kai-V · Jul 12 2012 01:54 PM

SA165 and WSF were not released yet. They are just part of the Gryph Dragooon special recolour that, I think, has yet to be released. The latter is just a fusion of multiple Beyblades' parts.

Just That Guy · Jul 12 2012 02:01 PM

The chrome wheel looks incredibly even at this angle, it's face reminds me Uranus for some reason.

*th!nk* · Jul 12 2012 02:03 PM

Yeah, that's what I mean, though it still means it won't be a unique release, which is unusual seeing as I'm assuming that gryph dragooon will come out before it, and normally the tracks/tips for RB prize beys don't get released separately for quite a while (sometimes never).

I guess to clarify my ideas a little, perhaps they will add a completely new tracks and tip in the RB, perhaps in the same colour as another Gryph, or even a unique crystal wheel, for a "secret" combo or something. Obviously, this is just pure speculation and I guess SA165WSF is unique enough, assuming they're actually good parts, to make the RB worthwhile as long as Gargoyle is competitive. Maybe I'm expecting too much, but in TT's position, with a relatively new line, and especially with the difficulty getting two of the prize beys initially, I'd definitely want to make at least the first few RB's strong. That said, I'd make all RB's strong, and I was really shocked by the RB's after RB7 dropping off in terms of competitive worth, so what do I know.

Kai-V · Jul 12 2012 02:06 PM

You understand that the Gryph Dragooon recolour will be absolutely rare ?

Dracomageat · Jul 12 2012 02:14 PM

Since Gryph Dragooon will be far from easily obtainable, I don't see how you can complain about it sharing parts like this.

Just That Guy · Jul 12 2012 02:16 PM

Hmm.... It reminds me of Death Gargoyle G's AR, or Effigy MS's ring if my memory serves right.

@Dracomageat

It'll be a matter of time before any rare parts become a dime-a-dozen, right? With an obvious few exceptions to that, of course.

*th!nk* · Jul 12 2012 02:23 PM

I think I've made clear I understand just how rare Gryph Dragooon will be, but the fact is when the RB is released, the track and tip of the prize bey still won't be a first release nor a unique one, even if only 10 people will have it, which isn't really normal for more recent random boosters, (TH170, SWD, RB). Perhaps I am taking it too seriously seeing as it will only be 10 people in the entire world, but I still don't feel it's right for not-entirely-new/unique parts to be the main parts of the prize beyblade, especially as it doesn't have a unique or rare Crystal Wheel either.

Meow! · Jul 12 2012 02:59 PM

I'm sorry but it looks way to defensive for me...its thick and it reminds me of basalt. Only when synchromed a much heavier basalt without the staircase.

@Syncrystal I could see the Death Gargoyle G, a little bit, but DEMS? Really? They are almost nothing alike except the fact that they are rounded.

Just That Guy · Jul 12 2012 03:06 PM

I only got the DEMS impression from the hollowed out claw patterns(?)

I'll try to fix my brain on this matter hah. Forgive me for seeing similarities.

I think Gargoyle Gryph would look awesome as a Synchrome combination.

EDIT:

The Crystal Wheel looks like it's that odd shade of Clear Black that is just barely see-through.

Raigeko13 · Jul 12 2012 05:12 PM

Hey guys! Look! It's another circular wheel!
Yay...
Looking forward to WSF though, sounds awesome!

There better be Phoenic, Revizer, and Killerken Chrome Wheels in this!
And Gryph! How did I forget Gryph?!

**Dark_Mousy** · Jul 12 2012 05:14 PM

Im looking forward to this. Looks like by the end of the month Ill be spending more on Beyblades then usual hah.

Meow! · Jul 12 2012 05:19 PM

(Jul 12 2012 05:12 PM)Raigeko13 Wrote: Hey guys! Look! It's another circular wheel!
Yay...
Looking forward to WSF though, sounds awesome!

There better be Phoenic, Revizer, and Killerken Chrome Wheels in this!

Ikr I'm really hoping there is at least a killerken chrome wheel, so I can snychrom it. It looks interesting enough.

I would assume they would almost have to, because they haven't released many new chrome wheels since the last RB.

Lets see: Reviser, Dragooon, Killerken, and Griff....thats all the metal wheels that were released after the first RB...unless I missed one.

Cannon · Jul 12 2012 06:52 PM

(Jul 12 2012 05:19 PM)Meow! Wrote: Lets see: Reviser, Dragooon, Killerken, and Griff....thats all the metal wheels that were released after the first RB...unless I missed one.

Dragooon is yet to be released. Unless you meant that have and will be ..

Just That Guy · Jul 12 2012 07:27 PM

I really look forward to the other contents. I only have one wish and cross my fingers for this;

Recolored Chrome wheels, not just 90's-esque decals.

zionson · Jul 12 2012 11:09 PM

As much as I love Phoenic, it would suck to have it as one of the wheels in this set since it takes away the "rare" factor. It also wouldn't make any sense since the "rare" bey of each booster volume is what defines it. My guess would be Gryph, Revizer, and Dragooon as these are what came out as normal boosters and starters. Possibly, but less likely, Killerken.

Slee · Jul 12 2012 11:40 PM

Just throwing an idea out here, but the first words that came to mind when I SA165 is Shield Attacker, which would make sense, with the track in the picture being circular. So maybe it's a free spinning 165 track with a spinning Shield from S130? With Dragooon's bottom throwing us off, maybe the bottom would be Wing Semi Flat? It could just be a Wide Semi Flat too. or maybe even a Sharp Flat (similar to SB)?

By the way, I really like the black and silver color scheme. Both black and red look great with the silver color of metal parts to me, which is one of the reasons I absolutely love Fusion Hades.

Uwik · Jul 13 2012 02:54 AM

First thing that came to mind is that Gargoyle is a lot like Zero G's Basalt, aesthetically.

Kai-V YRIDENERGYRIDENERGY BeyRank: #1,130 (1,013)	Post: #21 Archer Gargoyle is the Beyblade that has SA165 and WSF. http://ameblo.jp/1974-mshr/image-1130077...29309.html Is it really just silver and black ... ? I also predict that the actual name of this Beyblade will be Archer Gargol or something like that ... BEYBLADE SPIRIT l The Cover's Book \| Kai-Zer l BEYUNION ベイブレード「There were lines under his eyes so dark she wondered if they were actually done with makeup. Like he hadn't slept in days - no, like he had never slept in his life. Like his sense of justice would not allow him to sleep, since he had so many difficult cases to think about, battling unfathomable pressure on a daily basis.」
Jul 12 2012 01:37 PM

*th!nk* ~Burning Bright~ BeyRank: #294 (1,142)	Post: #22 (This post was last modified: Jul 12 2012 01:49 PM by th!nk.) I still expect to be surprised by something even more ludicrous than that. Still, that looks quite decently balanced, although we can't see the other side yet, and I'm a little concerned the black areas on the wheel might be holes, maybe we'll finally get a wheel that's good for anything other than defense from zero g. It also reminds me a lot of the original Death Gargoyle from plastics, though maybe that's just because of the name. Interesting that they're reusing the Crystal Wheel, Track and Tip, even though the latter two are very rare... Almost makes me wonder if it isn't like the second Phoenic beyblade from the first Zero G RB, haha, or that they're going further with what they did with the red Thief, E230 and GCF. Team "I Joined This Team So People Will Stop Sending Me Team Invites" - They can take our thread, but they can never take our "team spirit"! Like Plastics? Get Talking! Plastics Q&A\|Plastics General Discussion\|Plastic Parts Discussion th!nkBlargh! Latest Update: Tops Terminology: "Tourney Filler" (7th June 2013) MFB stuff I've written: (Click to View) Upper Attack Or Upward Smash?, Choosing a CW: A Simple Guide, Building Good Combinations! Plastics Resources: (Click to View) Plastics Weight Disk Identification Chart!, Plastic SG/Tip/Base/etc Compatibility Doc, H-Code Product List (Plastics), Hasbro G Revolution Parts List New Here? Read My Guide to the WBO: How to Make Good Posts and Not Get Warned! Youtube\|Twitter\|Blargh
Jul 12 2012 01:44 PM

Dracomageat	Post: #23 Yeah, it looks like it's very circular and very balanced (comparitively) but very hollow to make up for its strengths.
Jul 12 2012 01:49 PM

Kai-V YRIDENERGYRIDENERGY BeyRank: #1,130 (1,013)	Post: #24 SA165 and WSF were not released yet. They are just part of the Gryph Dragooon special recolour that, I think, has yet to be released. The latter is just a fusion of multiple Beyblades' parts. BEYBLADE SPIRIT l The Cover's Book \| Kai-Zer l BEYUNION ベイブレード「There were lines under his eyes so dark she wondered if they were actually done with makeup. Like he hadn't slept in days - no, like he had never slept in his life. Like his sense of justice would not allow him to sleep, since he had so many difficult cases to think about, battling unfathomable pressure on a daily basis.」
Jul 12 2012 01:54 PM

Just That Guy STOP POSTING OR...	Post: #25 The chrome wheel looks incredibly even at this angle, it's face reminds me Uranus for some reason. Proud owner of a Thermal Capricorne 125D Sle(i)pnir the Earth Raptor Spoiler (Click to View) Click on this for joy!
Jul 12 2012 02:01 PM

*th!nk* ~Burning Bright~ BeyRank: #294 (1,142)	Post: #26 Yeah, that's what I mean, though it still means it won't be a unique release, which is unusual seeing as I'm assuming that gryph dragooon will come out before it, and normally the tracks/tips for RB prize beys don't get released separately for quite a while (sometimes never). I guess to clarify my ideas a little, perhaps they will add a completely new tracks and tip in the RB, perhaps in the same colour as another Gryph, or even a unique crystal wheel, for a "secret" combo or something. Obviously, this is just pure speculation and I guess SA165WSF is unique enough, assuming they're actually good parts, to make the RB worthwhile as long as Gargoyle is competitive. Maybe I'm expecting too much, but in TT's position, with a relatively new line, and especially with the difficulty getting two of the prize beys initially, I'd definitely want to make at least the first few RB's strong. That said, I'd make all RB's strong, and I was really shocked by the RB's after RB7 dropping off in terms of competitive worth, so what do I know. Team "I Joined This Team So People Will Stop Sending Me Team Invites" - They can take our thread, but they can never take our "team spirit"! Like Plastics? Get Talking! Plastics Q&A\|Plastics General Discussion\|Plastic Parts Discussion th!nkBlargh! Latest Update: Tops Terminology: "Tourney Filler" (7th June 2013) MFB stuff I've written: (Click to View) Upper Attack Or Upward Smash?, Choosing a CW: A Simple Guide, Building Good Combinations! Plastics Resources: (Click to View) Plastics Weight Disk Identification Chart!, Plastic SG/Tip/Base/etc Compatibility Doc, H-Code Product List (Plastics), Hasbro G Revolution Parts List New Here? Read My Guide to the WBO: How to Make Good Posts and Not Get Warned! Youtube\|Twitter\|Blargh
Jul 12 2012 02:03 PM

Kai-V YRIDENERGYRIDENERGY BeyRank: #1,130 (1,013)	Post: #27 You understand that the Gryph Dragooon recolour will be absolutely rare ? BEYBLADE SPIRIT l The Cover's Book \| Kai-Zer l BEYUNION ベイブレード「There were lines under his eyes so dark she wondered if they were actually done with makeup. Like he hadn't slept in days - no, like he had never slept in his life. Like his sense of justice would not allow him to sleep, since he had so many difficult cases to think about, battling unfathomable pressure on a daily basis.」
Jul 12 2012 02:06 PM

Dracomageat	Post: #28 Since Gryph Dragooon will be far from easily obtainable, I don't see how you can complain about it sharing parts like this.
Jul 12 2012 02:14 PM

Just That Guy STOP POSTING OR...	Post: #29 (This post was last modified: Jul 12 2012 02:25 PM by Just That Guy.) Hmm.... It reminds me of Death Gargoyle G's AR, or Effigy MS's ring if my memory serves right. @Dracomageat It'll be a matter of time before any rare parts become a dime-a-dozen, right? With an obvious few exceptions to that, of course. Proud owner of a Thermal Capricorne 125D Sle(i)pnir the Earth Raptor Spoiler (Click to View) Click on this for joy!
Jul 12 2012 02:16 PM

*th!nk* ~Burning Bright~ BeyRank: #294 (1,142)	Post: #30 (This post was last modified: Jul 12 2012 02:24 PM by th!nk.) I think I've made clear I understand just how rare Gryph Dragooon will be, but the fact is when the RB is released, the track and tip of the prize bey still won't be a first release nor a unique one, even if only 10 people will have it, which isn't really normal for more recent random boosters, (TH170, SWD, RB). Perhaps I am taking it too seriously seeing as it will only be 10 people in the entire world, but I still don't feel it's right for not-entirely-new/unique parts to be the main parts of the prize beyblade, especially as it doesn't have a unique or rare Crystal Wheel either. Team "I Joined This Team So People Will Stop Sending Me Team Invites" - They can take our thread, but they can never take our "team spirit"! Like Plastics? Get Talking! Plastics Q&A\|Plastics General Discussion\|Plastic Parts Discussion th!nkBlargh! Latest Update: Tops Terminology: "Tourney Filler" (7th June 2013) MFB stuff I've written: (Click to View) Upper Attack Or Upward Smash?, Choosing a CW: A Simple Guide, Building Good Combinations! Plastics Resources: (Click to View) Plastics Weight Disk Identification Chart!, Plastic SG/Tip/Base/etc Compatibility Doc, H-Code Product List (Plastics), Hasbro G Revolution Parts List New Here? Read My Guide to the WBO: How to Make Good Posts and Not Get Warned! Youtube\|Twitter\|Blargh
Jul 12 2012 02:23 PM

Meow! Metapod Used Harden!	Post: #31 (This post was last modified: Jul 12 2012 02:59 PM by Meow!.) I'm sorry but it looks way to defensive for me...its thick and it reminds me of basalt. Only when synchromed a much heavier basalt without the staircase. @Syncrystal I could see the Death Gargoyle G, a little bit, but DEMS? Really? They are almost nothing alike except the fact that they are rounded.
Jul 12 2012 02:59 PM

Just That Guy STOP POSTING OR...	Post: #32 (This post was last modified: Jul 12 2012 03:11 PM by Just That Guy.) I only got the DEMS impression from the hollowed out claw patterns(?) I'll try to fix my brain on this matter hah. Forgive me for seeing similarities. I think Gargoyle Gryph would look awesome as a Synchrome combination. EDIT: The Crystal Wheel looks like it's that odd shade of Clear Black that is just barely see-through. Proud owner of a Thermal Capricorne 125D Sle(i)pnir the Earth Raptor Spoiler (Click to View) Click on this for joy!
Jul 12 2012 03:06 PM

Raigeko13 MtG Player	Post: #33 (This post was last modified: Jul 12 2012 05:16 PM by Raigeko13.) Hey guys! Look! It's another circular wheel! Yay... Looking forward to WSF though, sounds awesome! There better be Phoenic, Revizer, and Killerken Chrome Wheels in this! And Gryph! How did I forget Gryph?!
Jul 12 2012 05:12 PM

Dark_Mousy #BestInTheWorld BeyRank: #25 (1,423)	Post: #34 Im looking forward to this. Looks like by the end of the month Ill be spending more on Beyblades then usual hah. WBO Facebook \| WBO Twitter Beginner's Guide to the WBO!
Jul 12 2012 05:14 PM

Meow! Metapod Used Harden!	Post: #35 (Jul 12 2012 05:12 PM)Raigeko13 Wrote: Hey guys! Look! It's another circular wheel! Yay... Looking forward to WSF though, sounds awesome! There better be Phoenic, Revizer, and Killerken Chrome Wheels in this! Ikr I'm really hoping there is at least a killerken chrome wheel, so I can snychrom it. It looks interesting enough. I would assume they would almost have to, because they haven't released many new chrome wheels since the last RB. Lets see: Reviser, Dragooon, Killerken, and Griff....thats all the metal wheels that were released after the first RB...unless I missed one.
Jul 12 2012 05:19 PM

Cannon Can you not?	Post: #36 (This post was last modified: Jul 12 2012 06:52 PM by Cannon.) (Jul 12 2012 05:19 PM)Meow! Wrote: Lets see: Reviser, Dragooon, Killerken, and Griff....thats all the metal wheels that were released after the first RB...unless I missed one. Dragooon is yet to be released. Unless you meant that have and will be .. - HUGE! MFB/Zero-G Collection Sale!
Jul 12 2012 06:52 PM

Just That Guy STOP POSTING OR...	Post: #37 I really look forward to the other contents. I only have one wish and cross my fingers for this; Recolored Chrome wheels, not just 90's-esque decals. Proud owner of a Thermal Capricorne 125D Sle(i)pnir the Earth Raptor Spoiler (Click to View) Click on this for joy!
Jul 12 2012 07:27 PM

zionson Thunderground League BeyRank: #687 (1,054)	Post: #38 As much as I love Phoenic, it would suck to have it as one of the wheels in this set since it takes away the "rare" factor. It also wouldn't make any sense since the "rare" bey of each booster volume is what defines it. My guess would be Gryph, Revizer, and Dragooon as these are what came out as normal boosters and starters. Possibly, but less likely, Killerken.
Jul 12 2012 11:09 PM

Slee Metal Heeeeeaaarrt!! BeyRank: #551 (1,077)	Post: #39 (This post was last modified: Jul 12 2012 11:42 PM by Slee.) Just throwing an idea out here, but the first words that came to mind when I SA165 is Shield Attacker, which would make sense, with the track in the picture being circular. So maybe it's a free spinning 165 track with a spinning Shield from S130? With Dragooon's bottom throwing us off, maybe the bottom would be Wing Semi Flat? It could just be a Wide Semi Flat too. or maybe even a Sharp Flat (similar to SB)? By the way, I really like the black and silver color scheme. Both black and red look great with the silver color of metal parts to me, which is one of the reasons I absolutely love Fusion Hades.
Jul 12 2012 11:40 PM

Uwik ファイトクラブ BeyRank: #20 (1,441)	Post: #40 First thing that came to mind is that Gargoyle is a lot like Zero G's Basalt, aesthetically. (click 'LIKE' on the top)
Jul 13 2012 02:54 AM